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    Arrow The Godless Weenies

    With help of some players from another forum i've built this deck. Make sugestions about it. Im posting a lite version of it its almost 10 times cheaper ...just for casual players.
    The Godless Weenies

    4 Dark Confidant
    3 Hypnotic Specter
    3 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
    4 Savannah Lions
    4 Spectral Lynx

    3 Cabal Therapy
    4 Chrome Mox
    4 Duress
    3 Gerrard's Verdict
    3 Mortify
    2 Umezawa's Jitte
    4 Vindicate

    3 Bloodstained Mire
    3 Flooded Strand
    4 Godless Shrine
    5 Plains
    4 Swamp

    Sideboard:

    4 Disenchant
    4 Engineered Plague
    3 Nightmare Void
    4 Pithing Needle

    Lite Godless Weenies
    4 Blind Hunter
    4 Mourning Thrull
    4 Ravenous Rats
    4 Shrieking Grotesque
    4 Spectral Lynx

    4 Bonesplitter
    4 Chainer's Edict
    4 Duress
    4 Gerrard's Verdict
    4 Last Gasp

    7 Plains
    10 Swamp
    3 Tainted Field

    Sideboard:

    4 Disenchant
    4 Hand of Cruelty
    3 Hand of Honor
    4 Silver Knight

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    Nice one, I had been working on a similar deck immediately after Guildpact came out, on an idea that Omega Red had. here is the link in which we discussed that deck if you need more information: http://forum.tcgplayer.com/showthread.php?t=59690

    Anyway, it came down to running the full set of Vindicates, Cabal Therapies and Jittes, instead of Gerrard's Verdicts, Kataki instead of Chrome Mox, more lands instead of Mortifys and a much more teched out sideboard with Leyline of the Void for its great effect against most extended decks.

    This is the list:

    WB Aggro

    3 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
    4 Savannah Lions
    4 Dark Confidant
    4 Spectral Lynx
    3 Kataki War's Wage
    4 Hypnotic Specter
    ------
    22 Creatures

    4 Vindicate
    4 Umezawa's Jitte
    4 Duress
    4 CabalTherapy
    ------
    16 Spells

    2 Polluted Delta
    2 Flooded Strand
    2 Bloodstained Mire
    2 Windswept Heath
    4 Plains
    4 Swamp
    2 Caves of Koilos
    4 Godless Shrine
    ------
    22 Lands

    4 Leyline of the Void
    4 Orim's Chant
    4 Paladin en-Vec
    1 Kataki, War's Wage
    2 metagame specific cards, probably Mortify to address both enchantment removal and the expected rise of aggro

    As far as feedback is concerned, on the first list at least in terms of sideboard:

    Engineered Plague doesn't really kill anything (Goblins are virtually nonxistent)

    Disenchant is not good enough when compared to Vindicate, Mortify and Kataki for the matchups where it would matter

    and

    Nightmare Void pushes the deck's mana curve up to 4, which is really not needed if the correct discard package is already featured in the maindeck.

    The deck is powerful and is expected to be a contender in the post-Guildpact extended, therefore I would advise anyone to keep an eye open for it and be prepared.
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    IMO it need Promise of Bunrei

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    Grimwall - i remember that list, lol.

    ok, first off, promise of bunrei is not needed, especially since the only way you would be able to abuse it in this deck is with therapy, and personally, i would rather be playing better spells for 3 mana, like vindicate, or hippie. and i completely agrre on the gerrard's verdict, it is a really good card, but when u have access to duress and the ability to abuse therapy, it just makes it seem like a "meh" card, ya know. and is leyline the right answer, or should it be withered wretch??? i would suggest more, but i just do not know the meat for extended right now, and am really not interested at this point in time, because it's not extended season .
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    I am going to suggest a build.

    WB Aggro

    3 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
    4 Savannah Lions
    4 Dark Confidant
    4 Spectral Lynx
    4 Hypnotic Spectre
    19 creatures

    4 Vindicate
    4 Umezawa's Jitte
    4 Duress
    4 Gerard's Verdict
    2 Sword of Fire and Ice
    1 Mortify
    19 Spells

    2 Polluted Delta
    2 Flooded Strand
    2 Bloodstained Mire
    2 Windswept Heath
    5 Plains
    5 Swamp
    4 Godless Shrine
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    22 Lands
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    Are artifacts such a threat you want to MD Kataki, and if so do you want to run jitte yourself?
    And does Cabal Therapy belong in here. It goes brilliantly in decks like the Rock, where you will kill your own creatures with mass removal, but here i think you want your weenies.
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    Actually, yes. Artifacts are quite a threat and Jitte kills this deck if it resolves and dtarts working because all the creatures have 1 or 2 toughness.

    Kataki is in there because he fits the mana curve, theme and colors, plus he helps against the most popular, explosive and difficult deck in Extended in that it kills faster and most of its creatures are bigger than these.

    Definite slots for me.

    From then on, Cabal Therapy is the best discard around, and you always have something to sacrifice if you are to nab that troublesome card from the opponent's hand. It can also grab multiples and its cc of 1 makes it a good filler for any turn in which you have free mana, in contrary to Gerrard's Verdict which is too situational for my liking. I mean, if I wanted my opponent to choose what he discards I could be playing Ravenous Rats as well, right? And the life gain is not exactly what an aggro deck needs. Jitte can provide that as well...
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    Hmmmm.
    Well you have certainly thought about what ur doing Grimwall. I was actually thinking about the rats but didn't find room.
    What deck ru talking of? 3 months ago, when I last had much to do with extended, the dominant deck was tog.
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    River Boa,

    I have indeed played this deck a lot at my leisure and it works very well, hence the card choices and the supported arguments.

    Now, let's see. What deck was dominant in Extended, that was faster and more explosive than this deck and has even bigger creatures?

    - I am of course talking about Affinity.

    Tog was dominant at the beginning of the Extended season, for a while after the Loam engine was discovered. From then on however, all decks managed to tune themselves to beat it and Affinity became the deck that posted most consistent top 8 appearences.

    Ichorid also made an explosion but you can safely assume that we won't see any more of that with Leyline of the Void and all...

    That is why I am so certain about the inclusion of Kataki in the maindeck, because the Affinity build that has been posting the best results for me runs 4 maindecked Fire/Ice to which this BW aggro deck rolls over. An unanswered Kataki gives this deck a good chance at winning.
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