Mono Green Fight Club

[Kyon Dark]

This is a deck I have been trying to working on for a while and would love any feed back for it Here is the list:

4 Birds of Paradise
4 Llanowar Elves
2 Ulvenwald Tracker
4 Strangleroot Geist
4 Wolfir Avenger
3 Predator Ooze
2 Wolfir Silverheart
3 Acidic Slime

4 Prey Upon
4 Rancor
3 Revenge of the Hunted

23 Forest

Note: I do not want to put in Dungrove Elder or Green Sun's Zenith in the deck for reasons of price and availability. Thank you in advance!

[vger]

@Kyon Dark,

Unfortunately Dungrove Elder is one of the contributing reasons to why Monogreen could be a viable archetype (GSZ, to a lesser extent), but I also do understand that it isn't really realistic to get them now. I would have told you to get them asap if it wasn't for the fact that they are rotating in a few weeks time. Hence I guess we will just make do with whatever you have?

With that said, I would suggest the following changes.

-4 Prey Upon
-3 Acidic Slime

+2 Dismember
+1 Forest
+1 Thrun, the Last Troll
+3 Thragtusk

Reasons for these changes:

Prey Upon is probably weaker due to the absence of Dungrove Elder, hence it gets replaced by Dismember.

Thrun, the Last Troll and Thragtusk are added for more power to the deck, since it seems that it is lacking in that department without Dungrove Elder. It isn't that Acidic Slime is bad in this deck, but Thragtusk and Thrun, the Last Troll are much more relevant in today's aggressive format.

Do note that I am unsure how significantly better these changes can do for you, since there isn't really anything to replace Dungrove Elder here. If you are interested, you may want to visit this thread linked here for more information.

Hopefully this helps!

[Kyon Dark]

@Kyon Dark,

Unfortunately Dungrove Elder is one of the contributing reasons to why Monogreen could be a viable archetype (GSZ, to a lesser extent), but I also do understand that it isn't really realistic to get them now. I would have told you to get them asap if it wasn't for the fact that they are rotating in a few weeks time. Hence I guess we will just make do with whatever you have?

With that said, I would suggest the following changes.

-4 Prey Upon
-3 Acidic Slime

+2 Dismember
+1 Forest
+1 Thrun, the Last Troll
+3 Thragtusk

Reasons for these changes:

Prey Upon is probably weaker due to the absence of Dungrove Elder, hence it gets replaced by Dismember.

Thrun, the Last Troll and Thragtusk are added for more power to the deck, since it seems that it is lacking in that department without Dungrove Elder. It isn't that Acidic Slime is bad in this deck, but Thragtusk and Thrun, the Last Troll are much more relevant in today's aggressive format.

Do note that I am unsure how significantly better these changes can do for you, since there isn't really anything to replace Dungrove Elder here. If you are interested, you may want to visit this thread linked here for more information.

Hopefully this helps!

Thank you! A lot of these cards I sadly cannot get, but I can see what you are talking about. What about adding in Garruk Relentless and Garruk, Primal Hunter? I have 2 copies of both as well Champion of Lambholt?

[vger]

@Kyon Dark,

Well both Garruk Relentless and Garruk, Primal Hunter are probably fine choices despite still not being able to replace the power vacuum in your 3-4 drops due to the absence of Dungrove Elder. And no, Wolfir Avenger is simply a different card for that matter.

For Garruk Relentless, I guess I can't complain much about him since card availability issues are really hurting this deck.

However I would really prefer having Wolfir Silverheart instead of Garruk, Primal Hunter in the build. Garruk, Primal Hunter is a lot worse due to the absence of Dungrove Elder, being unable to exert the same pressure to prevent your opponents from recovering. Not to mention the fact that it is rather awkward having him stuck in hand after casting that Garruk Relentless the previous turn. Wolfir Silverheart at least enhances all of your creatures, presents a 1-2 turns clock without having any anti-synergistic interactions in your build.

However if you were to still not be able to obtain those Wolfir Silverheart, I guess you may want to look into Vorapede. Now I won't claim that it is the wisest decision to be playing it, yet it remains an option that you can explore into. If it wasn't for the widely played Vapor Snag and the presence of both Thragtusk and Wolfir Silverheart, Vorapede might actually get a shot at being playable.

Or otherwise, I guess you have to stick with Garruk, Primal Hunter then if you are still unable to get anything except these.

Another suggestion I can have for you regarding this build, is Daybreak Ranger/Nightfall Predator. While this may stretch your manabase and transforming your build into a monogreen build, Daybreak Ranger/Nightfall Predator seems like a decent choice along with Wolfir Avenger and Predator Ooze.

Truth to be told, I don't think I can offer any more advice regarding this list. There are seriously way too many important factors being compromised at this point, and I doubt that this could go very far with all the inferior substitutions.

[Kyon Dark]

@Kyon Dark,

Well both Garruk Relentless and Garruk, Primal Hunter are probably fine choices despite still not being able to replace the power vacuum in your 3-4 drops due to the absence of Dungrove Elder. And no, Wolfir Avenger is simply a different card for that matter.

For Garruk Relentless, I guess I can't complain much about him since card availability issues are really hurting this deck.

However I would really prefer having Wolfir Silverheart instead of Garruk, Primal Hunter in the build. Garruk, Primal Hunter is a lot worse due to the absence of Dungrove Elder, being unable to exert the same pressure to prevent your opponents from recovering. Not to mention the fact that it is rather awkward having him stuck in hand after casting that Garruk Relentless the previous turn. Wolfir Silverheart at least enhances all of your creatures, presents a 1-2 turns clock without having any anti-synergistic interactions in your build.

However if you were to still not be able to obtain those Wolfir Silverheart, I guess you may want to look into Vorapede. Now I won't claim that it is the wisest decision to be playing it, yet it remains an option that you can explore into. If it wasn't for the widely played Vapor Snag and the presence of both Thragtusk and Wolfir Silverheart, Vorapede might actually get a shot at being playable.

Or otherwise, I guess you have to stick with Garruk, Primal Hunter then if you are still unable to get anything except these.

Another suggestion I can have for you regarding this build, is Daybreak Ranger/Nightfall Predator. While this may stretch your manabase and transforming your build into a monogreen build, Daybreak Ranger/Nightfall Predator seems like a decent choice along with Wolfir Avenger and Predator Ooze.

Truth to be told, I don't think I can offer any more advice regarding this list. There are seriously way too many important factors being compromised at this point, and I doubt that this could go very far with all the inferior substitutions.

After doing some thinking, I decided to try out this list:

4 Birds of Paradise
4 Llanowar Elves
2 Ulvenwald Tracker
4 Strangleroot Geist
4 Champion of Lambholt
3 Predator Ooze
2 Wolfir Silverheart
1 Thragtusk

2 Garruk Relentless

4 Prey Upon
4 Rancor
3 Revenge of the Hunted

23 Forest

I haven't gone into heavy testing yet, but I am just trying out other options in that 3-mana slot. I might give Primordial Hydra a try as well