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    This is my frites deck. Yup. Pretty standard for the most part. Almost wanted to put in a Core Augur but decide to go against it. The only addition I made from Ava was the inclusion of Avacyn (extra animation target)and Griselbrand (which is recently editted into the deck), and the utility lands such as Desolated Lighthouse (which helps cycle)

    The choices that are in here differ from other frites is that it doesn't run 12 one drop to accelerate. Only 8. This is more of a personal choice of testing out the limits of frites and what creature I can add to the list of reanimation targets. Then there's the flayer of hatebound. With the amount of recycling I can do, Flayer can turn into a Flametongue Kavu easily and also deal with creatures such as Olivia Voldaren and Fiend Hunter which the deck has issues with.

    The sideboard is to further deal with enchantments such as Oblivion Rings and artifact such as Wurmcoil Engine, all the equips, and Graffdigger's Cage. In addition, I have added Beast Within, Zealous Conscript to deal with planeswalker (because the deck hate Gideon and Venser) and stop Nihil Spellbomb from killing you with Misthollow Griffin and Elixir of Immortality. Metamorph is just another target to help deal with Thrun, other Elesh Norns, and Titan copying.

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    4 Avacyn's Pilgrim
    4 Birds of Paradise
    4 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
    2 griselbrand
    1 Inferno Titan
    2 Olivia Voldaran
    1 avacyn, angel of hope

    4 faithless looting
    4 mulch
    4 Tracker's instinct
    3 lingering souls
    4 Unburial Rites

    4 Razorverge Thicket
    4 Copperline Gorge
    4 Blackcleave Cliff
    2 Evolving Wild
    1 Gavony Township
    2 Desolated lighthouse

    3 forest
    2 Mountain
    1 swamp

    Sideboard:

    3 Beast Within
    2 Ancient Grudge
    2 Ray of Revelation
    1 Phyrexian Metamorph
    2 Zealous Conscript
    2 Elixir of Immortality
    3 Misthollow Griffin
    Last edited by Psyren; 04-27-2012 at 01:07 AM.

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    Reanimator is going to be a very real thing post Avacyn Restored, but not because of the angel, but her nemesis. Griselbrand is utterly silly, especially when you use Timely Reinforcements as your main defense to get you there. I think there are about a bajillion ways to build reanimator right now, but i definitely think Griselbrand, Norn and Reinforcements cry out to get used as the shell, then your red looting effects (that new "discard your hand, draw 2" seems worthy of testing). I'd try

    4 Griselbrand
    4 Elesh-Norn, Grand Cenobyte

    4 Timely Reinforcements

    4 Faithless Looting

    4 Unburial Rites

    Then fill in the gaps to suit. I've seen ideas including Necrotic Ooze (also silly with Griselbrand) and Zombie Infestation (ermm, ooops, sick with Griselbrand). But yeah, draw 7 is still good I hear.

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    while i do agree with you griselbrand is good for reanimator

    i dont know if it is justifiable to run more than 2.

    and yes, timely reinforcement will end up getting your health back and end up making tokens, i am also not sure tge inability to flash it back makes it a better choice than lingering souls because even if you end up milling it with mulch or instinct, the flash back will at least get you 1/1 fliers on the board. one of thing frites is good at is its ability to turn everything into a resource.
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    hat and i m already running 2 defy death. i am not sure if i want to add more spells that are unuseable if milled.
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    tw i did take your advise on the griselbrand
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScaryHairyGuy View Post
    Reanimator is going to be a very real thing post Avacyn Restored, but not because of the angel, but her nemesis. Griselbrand is utterly silly.
    Even though Griselbrand is the next reaimination target that can win you games with its draw 7 ability, but do you have to run all 4 of them? It is going to be 8 mythic creatures which makes this deck very expensive.
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    Oh and here's a block version

    4 Abundant Growth
    4 faithless looting

    4 mulch
    4 Tracker's instinct
    4 Unburial Rites
    1 Army of the Damned

    4 Avacyn's Pilgrim
    1 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
    1
    Olivia Voldaren
    2 Griselbrand
    4 Balefire Dragon
    1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
    2 Sigarda, Host of Heron


    3 Clifftop Retreat
    3 Isolated Chapel
    4 woodland cemetery
    2 Evolving Wilds
    1 swamp
    1 Plains
    5 forest
    5 mountain

    Sideboard:

    2 Ancient Grudge
    3 Urgent Exorcism
    4 Pillar of Flame
    4 Scorch the Field
    2 Terminus
    Last edited by Psyren; 04-26-2012 at 11:59 PM.

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    Yes, Timely isn't great in the graveyard, but here's the thing- green and blue are unnecessary in the deck: it puts extra strain on an already stretched mana base, and you can achieve what you need to with black discard effects and looting effects. Oh, and I wasn't proposing Timely Reinforcements instead of Lingering Souls: i say run both. Stick to BRw and I think I'd go with something like:

    Dudes

    4 Elesh-Norn, Grand Cenobite
    4 Griselbrand
    2 Necrotic Ooze

    Spells

    4 Timely Reinforcements
    4 Lingering Souls
    4 Faithless Looting
    4 Unburial Rites
    2 Shattered Perception
    2 Dangerous Wager

    Enchantments
    2 Zombie Infestation

    Planeswalkers
    4 Liliana of the Veil

    Land
    3 Blackcleave Cliffs
    3 Clifftop Retreat
    4 Isolated Chapel
    3 Dragonskull Summit
    4 Evolving Wilds
    1 Plains
    3 Swamp
    3 Mountain

    I think using discard/loot rather than the more random Mulch and Tracker's Instincts justifies inclusion of all 4 Griselbrand- yes there may be times when you're stuck with a Griselbrand in your hand when you already have one in play, but in that case, well- you have Griselbrand in play, you could have a grip full of Pokemon cards and you'd still be in pretty good shape

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    ah, i see.

    and thank you for pointing out the blue. The blue was there for something else originally, I didn't remember to change the land base when I put up this version

    so I didn't even notice i put in the wrong land actually.

    >.>

    I will give your version a playtest and I will see if I will change it to that list.
    Last edited by Psyren; 04-27-2012 at 01:10 AM.

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