SD23: Roar of the Sea Emperor (Kaitei no Gao)

[Dudewitbow]

if i were to throw a guess in the dark, it will be a clone of Machina Gearframe.1800 attack monster whos effect goes off only when normal summoned, searches for all the other cards. To balance this card from being overpowered, it already isnt a legal deepsea diva target as well as the fact that the boss monster cannot use it as one of the 3 tributes for its effect since its level 4(unless konami is going to throw the A legendary Ocean+Warrior of Atlantis in the structure deck), making it a balanced searcher in a way.

the deck already has 2 destruction cards for face up and face down. it has a beater that easy turns from 1400>22*00. a card that provides extra normal summons and a card that special summons from the deck if it does battle damage with its low attack power. It only sounds fitting that the last card would be a searcher in some way.

[larlock]

if i were to throw a guess in the dark, it will be a clone of Machina Gearframe.1800 attack monster whos effect goes off only when normal summoned, searches for all the other cards. To balance this card from being overpowered, it already isnt a legal deepsea diva target as well as the fact that the boss monster cannot use it as one of the 3 tributes for its effect since its level 4(unless konami is going to throw the A legendary Ocean+Warrior of Atlantis in the structure deck), making it a balanced searcher in a way.

the deck already has 2 destruction cards for face up and face down. it has a beater that easy turns from 1400>1800. a card that provides extra normal summons and a card that special summons from the deck if it does battle damage with its low attack power. It only sounds fitting that the last card would be a searcher in some way.

yea you might be right but i hope we get some good rank 2 xyz or a real easy way to summon the boss thru the lv4 *crosses fingers* or some UMI action eitherway i'm fine with it.

[larlock]

I made a deck using only the cards we have and it's pretty beast, Deep Sea Diva is OP nuff said.

http://i.imgur.com/BwQ3X.jpg

[MaJuV]

its probably going to be 1 or 2 monsters max, since

SD23-JP001 Atlantean Dragon Poseidra 【海皇龍　ポセイドラ】 (Ultra Rare)
SD23-JP002
SD23-JP003 Atlantean Marksman 【海皇の狙撃兵】
SD23-JP004 Atlantean Armed Soldier 【海皇の重装兵】
SD23-JP005
SD23-JP006 Atlantean Assault Trooper 【海皇の突撃兵】

assault trooper is legally a reprint in the OCG, so 2 is most likely a new monster(probably one with an attack near 1800 or 1900) and weather jp005 is going to be either a new card, or cause lol when Atlantean Pikeman gets put in there.

Analysed the vanilla spots in other SD's and came to the following conclusion:
Yes, 002 will be a new Atlantean monster in Super rare, and 005 WILL be Atlantean Pikeman (you can lol all you want)
But with 4 new monsters in this SD, I guess there will only be 1 new spell or trap card :-s
Or will they give this "new" archetype a bigger new-card boost than usual? (wishful thinking)

And yeah: Dragon Ice is a nice tech card, indeed... Wonder if it would be in the SD as well?

[IC3R]

I doubt Dragon Ice would be included (though a reprint really is due about now), considering the deck specifically states it will be supporting Sea Serpents.

One has to wonder how it all ties into Poseidra... he triggers the effects of Armsman and Marksman, but we have an issue getting all the pieces together. It's reasonable to believe the Lv4 Atlantean could be some kind of searcher, but what would the spell do (because let's face it, structure deck traps have been meh for quite a long time)?

So many questions and not enough Konami revealing stuff...

[larlock]

believe the level 4 will bring access to Poseidra...since that is the main focus of the deck, the trap will support them somewhat, can't wait to see it XD

[MaJuV]

I doubt Dragon Ice would be included (though a reprint really is due about now), considering the deck specifically states it will be supporting Sea Serpents.

One has to wonder how it all ties into Poseidra... he triggers the effects of Armsman and Marksman, but we have an issue getting all the pieces together. It's reasonable to believe the Lv4 Atlantean could be some kind of searcher, but what would the spell do (because let's face it, structure deck traps have been meh for quite a long time)?

So many questions and not enough Konami revealing stuff...

"Deck around the Water and Sea serpent theme": Dragon Ice is water, a reprint would be nice & helps the other cards.

I'm thinking the same. That level 4 will be a searcher. That spell or trap will probably be an easier way to get the boss monster out (similar like the previous SD's)

[Blimp123]

Personally I hope this last Level 4 Atlantean (I'm a little late here: how do you guys know it's Level 4?) makes an instant-summon for Poseidra AND has an effect that gets triggered when Tributed for Poseidra AND has an effect that triggers the other 2 Atlanteans.

Maybe something like:

"Once per turn, you can Tribute 1 WATER monster on the field or in your hand to Special Summon 2 "Atlantean" Tokens (1* WATER/Sea Serpent 0/0) in face-up Defense Position, and decrease this monster's Level by up to 2. The Tokens cannot be used as Synchro Material Monsters, or Tributed for a Tribute Summon, except for the Tribute or Synchro Summon of a WATER monster. If this card is sent to the Graveyard for the activation of a WATER monster's effect, add 1 "Atlantean" card from your Deck to your hand, except [this Monster's name here]."

And of course it would be nice if this monster has 1500 or less ATK, so we can spam Salvage even more and search it out with Mother Grizzly.

As for a Spell or Trap support card(s) we get, I hope it's a Continuous or Field Card so we can abuse Poseidra's backrow-bouncing effect.

[IC3R]

I predict the last Atlantean monster will be a Lv4 solely because of Marksman's text:

When this card inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent: You can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Sea Serpent-Type "Atlantean" monster, except "Atlantean Marksman", from your Deck. When this card is sent to the Graveyard for the activation of a WATER monster's effect: Target 1 Set card your opponent controls; destroy that target.

The underlined is what I mean; if there were no Lv4 Atlantean in mind at the time, Konami would have likely said "Level 3 or lower...", you know.

I don't really know what I want the Lv4's effect to be exactly. I know a "Once per turn: You can discard 1 card; add 1 "Atlantean" monster from your Deck to your hand." effect would be ideal, but I dunno if it would have a second effect which triggers in the same manner as Armsman and Marksman. And even if it did, what would it do? (Special Summoning would be le supah broke)



Also, back at the Marksman effect (if that's the 100% correct translation), why would it mention Sea Serpents as a criteria of targets for his Special Summoning effect unless Konami planned on releasing NON-Sea Serpent "Atlanteans" at some point?

[MaJuV]

Yeah, big chance it's a lv. 4 then. I expect that monsters effect to be more or less like the previous searchers. Something like:
"When this card is normal summoned, add 1 Lv. 4 or lower Atlantean monster to your hand, except [this card name]. When Umi is on the field, you can add Poseidra to your hand instead. When tributing this card for the (special) summon of a Sea Serpent monster, this card counts as 2 tributes."

This effect:
- Goes along with the field spell love of Konami's Structure Decks
- Would go along with the Level 4 of the monster (A legendary Ocean is treated as Umi & lowers the level of water monsters)
- Makes it easier to get Poseidra in your hand & on the field.
- Promotes use of other high-level Sea Serpents.

@Ic3r: I don't think they're going to release non-sea serpents Atlanteans. It's rather that they're starting to learn from their mistakes in the past :-D