Tiers should be deleted

[Super Peter]

It seems like whoever controls the tier part of the forums does not play or does not know how to play this game at all..ex; bws are in t3 dragunity and miracle heros are in t2 he/she even went as far as moving gbs to t3..I as a dedicated gb player does not like to see my deck classified lower than decks that it is not lower than and imsure other players who are dedicated to certain decks feel the same way..tiers should be deleted and it should just be a deck decussion thread I'm sure this change would make a lot of people happy and not feel their deck is any worse than the next deck. Idc if we need a poll or somthing but somthing must be done becayse this is getting redic

[cyslim5]

Have to agree with this. LS is a Tier 3 deck which almost nobody uses, yet it's only on Tier 2 because mods whore the deck (no offence).

[SnakeRattle]

I gotta agree with you guys, I really don't understand the mods choice with dropping glads and bw down to tier 3. Both are amazing decks and atleast deserve to be tier 2+.

Super Peter I really like your idea about the polls, but I don't think the tiers should be deleted. Personally I think things would work better if the choice of which decks go in what tiers was left to us, the players.

All in all I think we should be allowed to vote on the decks to decide tiers.....just my 2 cents.

[BigStinkin'Ape]

The tiers are still an issue for us, the format changes so rapidly that we are lookign to find a way to classify the various discussions in such a way to reflect that. Currently were just moving them based on placement at that most recent YCS. This system does not work as by the time we get them "right" where they need to be, the format shifts due to another set release or som unpredicted deck topping.

In short, our system isn't perfect, but were open to suggestions on a new one.

[Ancient_Gladiator_Dragon]

I think Glads can stay in Tier 3.
YCS Philadelphia: No Glads
YCS Atlanta: No Glads
YCS Dallas: No Glads
YCS Charlotte: No Glads

In the last FOUR American YCS Championships no Gladiator Beast builds have been in the Top 32. Last I checked, even Tier 2 decks make Top 32.

Blackwings, I disagree with moving to Tier 3. I would be comfortable moving them to Tier 2 if anything. They haven't made it passed Top 16 in how long?

I do however disagree with Dragunities moving to Tier 2. They had ONE good showing. One showing isn't enough to show how good a deck is.

I have no opinion either which way on the matter of Lightsworns.

I personally like the Tier system as it is. If you have a complaint, and can back it up with evidence that isn't "I play the deck and it's really good", then I'm sure that you can post it somewhere in the Site/Forum Feedback section to discuss whether it should be changed or not. It'd be a nice change of pace from "How do I change my signature?" threads.

[Velius]

^ Definitely agree with this on GB's. Tier 3, all the way.

If we're going to go by the most recent YCS for the tier decisions, then it needs to be taken into account that there was a Blackwing deck in the top 32. Given the deck's successful past, I think this warrants the deck's placing in the Tier 2 category. Blackwings have been topping since their release and one bad showing at an event shouldn't have THAT much of an effect on its tier placement IMO. When was the last time Lightsworns won a YCS/Jump? And they're above Blackwings in tiers? I think more time should be given before the axe is brought down on Blackwings.

I think the most simple solution would be to simply have a "Tier Poll" or something like this.

[Super Peter]

So we don't take regs into consideration? I also understand you have your opinion about glads but you are silly if you think gbs are tier 3..I can take any gb deck and downright destroy any top tier deck..dragunity is obvlsy t1..I think you fail to realaize what tops a ycs has a lot to do with representation..its so many viable decks out right now the format is wide open..making one deck discussion thread with all the decks in it instead of the tier 1 2 3 system is much better. The tier system is only based of opinion my idea is based of fact and what is actually beeing played at the moment..if anyone has a dgz acount you see how successful they are with just deck discussion..dragunity and miracle heros are def not t2 they are 5q

[Char956]

just go to deck thread section that splits off into active and inactive. Decks like cyberdarks aren't being played. so move them to inactive decks. The active list is for everyone else. All of those "what is tier 1" threads get deleted and you can't create new threads in it except by mod approval.

[Ancient_Gladiator_Dragon]

The entire point of the tier system is to represent what tops. Whether that be for how much it's represented or how good it is. It's not my opinion what made the Top 32, that is fact. If we sat there and placed all of the "good" decks into a section, people who argue everyday because they don't think this deck is good and that deck is better. If you base it on opinions then things start getting screwed up.

We also can't put all of the decks into one section. Things look cluttered up enough. If you put all of that clutter in one place then you'll have to sift through two pages of stuff you don't want just to find the one thing you do. Separating the decks into these sections gives them some organization, thus reducing the clutter.

Regarding Regionals: I would love for them to be represented. Since last august there have been 135 regionals. With a large amount of data like that, we could have a much more accurate system. Tell me what the Top 32 of the Regional in Natick Massachusetts was on March 5th. More than likely you won't be able to tell me. I don't know. If there was official data regarding the things that topped Regionals we could actually take it into consideration. I have no idea where it is. I would love to read it. As of now, we CAN'T take them into consideration for the simple fact that we don't know what happened.

Regarding Dragunities: I don't believe one good showing is enough to change their level instantly. If that were the way things worked, two countries would get together, have a single battle, and the war would be over because since the one side won once, they will win every single battle in the future and there is no point in continuing to try. If they do it again, it solidifies their place as a Tier 1 deck.

Edit: I like Char's idea. This will likely cut down the clutter. Do we really need Toon's and Mist Valley in the same place as Gdagets, Disaster Dragon, and Glads?

[Audioslayne]

just go to deck thread section that splits off into active and inactive. Decks like cyberdarks aren't being played. so move them to inactive decks. The active list is for everyone else. All of those "what is tier 1" threads get deleted and you can't create new threads in it except by mod approval.

I dont know about inactive vs active threads, but I definitely like mod approval to post threads and one massive section. Basically just take out any deck that hasnt had a post in like 2 weeks and lump everything else into one area. This would require, however, a MUCH more well kept Official Thread Request Thread, for frankly what he have now is laughable at best.

EDIT: A regional results and a YCS pinned results thread displaying the decks that topped could help people figure out whats doing well without segregating into tiers.