Honest vs Honest

[kendizzle]

How does the chain link work with honest vs honest?!?! for example if my opponents wulf attacks my wulf and he uses honest, then i chain honest, then he chains honest then finally me, how would that work out?!?!

[Seraphon]

It's easy, follow the chain of activations, and resolve them backwards.

Honest's Multi-Trigger effect boosts one monster's current ATK by the ATK of the target monster's current ATK. The exact gain is decided when each Honest's effect resolves. So,

Chain Link 1 - Opponent's Honest,
Chain Link 2 - Your Honest,
Chain Link 3 - Opponent's Honest,
Chain Link 4 - Your Honest,

Resolve them backwards.

Chain Link 4 resolves. Your Wulf gains 2100, becoming Atk 4200.
Chain Link 3 resolves. Your opponent's Wulf gains 4200, becoming 6300.
Chain Link 2 resolves. Your Wulf gains 6300, becoming 10,500
Chain Link 1 resolves. Your opponent's Wulf gains 10,500, becoming 16,800

End result, yours will be at ATK 10,500, your opponent's will be at ATK 16,800

[zelink]

It's easy, follow the chain of activations, and resolve them backwards.

Honest's Multi-Trigger effect boosts one monster's current ATK by the ATK of the target monster's current ATK. The exact gain is decided when each Honest's effect resolves. So,

Chain Link 1 - Opponent's Honest,
Chain Link 2 - Your Honest,
Chain Link 3 - Opponent's Honest,
Chain Link 4 - Your Honest,

Resolve them backwards.

Chain Link 4 resolves. Your Wulf gains 2100, becoming Atk 4200.
Chain Link 3 resolves. Your opponent's Wulf gains 4200, becoming 6300.
Chain Link 2 resolves. Your Wulf gains 6300, becoming 10,500
Chain Link 1 resolves. Your opponent's Wulf gains 10,500, becoming 16,800

End result, yours will be at ATK 10,500, your opponent's will be at ATK 16,800

Wow, that's freaking awesome(sorry i need to make this not spam lol)
Honest will work just like any ordinary chain, but i think the problem here is that you have to decide to use your honest first or not, because he declared the attack so u have first response, unless you said pass to your opponent.

[Seraphon]

Honest will work just like any ordinary chain, but i think the problem here is that you have to decide to use your honest first or not, because he declared the attack so u have first response, unless you said pass to your opponent.

Aah, no. That's not how it works. Remember player Priority - the turn player has it until he passes it for whatever reason. Summoning and declaring an attack (to name two such events) don't pass Priority, so I can attack with my monster, and use Honest before you can respond.

Of course, that doesn't stop you using Sakuretsu Armor, but Honest can instead be used in the Damage Step, where again, I'd have Priority to put my Honest on the chain first.

[Pacers2k8]

really i thought judges ruled the first person who activated honest would gain advantage over honest due to the fact its for the turn. ex your wulf attacks wulf you honest then they honest their honest gains then your honest gains their boost well thats what i was told at regis by a head judge but I might be wrong. wow thats what yo said sorry i didnt read very well

[Dekzter]

really i thought judges ruled the first person who activated honest would gain advantage over honest due to the fact its for the turn. ex your wulf attacks wulf you honest then they honest their honest gains then your honest gains their boost well thats what i was told at regis by a head judge but I might be wrong. wow thats what yo said sorry i didnt read very well

Some of these judges man..... they make me sick
and this honest war is a pretty cool way to gain alot of atk really fast

[SteveSmithBeta]

Of course, that doesn't stop you using Sakuretsu Armor, but Honest can instead be used in the Damage Step, where again, I'd have Priority to put my Honest on the chain first.

can't Honest only be used in the damage step?

[Seraphon]

Oh. Yes, sorry. Ignore that bit.

[Sparda9000]

Aah, no. That's not how it works. Remember player Priority - the turn player has it until he passes it for whatever reason. Summoning and declaring an attack (to name two such events) don't pass Priority, so I can attack with my monster, and use Honest before you can respond.

Of course, that doesn't stop you using Sakuretsu Armor, but Honest can instead be used in the Damage Step, where again, I'd have Priority to put my Honest on the chain first.

Actually can't the opposing player activate honest in response to the attack, in the damage step?
Also isn't it better to activate honest first on the chain, so you monster will get the higher boost?

[Seraphon]

No, because the actions that are responding to the attack itself are done in an 'attack response window' which is before the damage step itself. That's when you'd use Sakuretsu Armor, to avoid entering the damage step altogether. Honest can't be used here.

The person who activates Honest first will get the biggest bonus out of it. Honest looks at ATK values on resolution, so if one Honest is chained to another, the second one resolves and gives an ATK boost, then the first one resolves and gives an even bigger boost.