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Ya, it isn't very good, it will just get disenchanted.
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Shotgunlaw : rings + magus of the coffers dont work because you cant copy mana abilities. (and that would be out broken :P)
Anyone dares to make a deck, for T2, limited by Rakavolver expansions/set meantioned, with this card?
SeveredLegion : who uses disenchant, or other kind of removal for artifacts, main deck, in t2?
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 Originally Posted by SeveredLegion
Ya, it isn't very good, it will just get disenchanted.
See, that shows how much you know. The obvious reason this card sucks is Seal of Primordium. Rings single handledly makes this a $5 common.
However, the more and more I think about it, Mordor.dec might actually be viable as MBC. The curve is a bit high, but as a control build that could be okay.
You have terror/tendrils/pact/damnation/Garza's for removal. Deathmark for goyf problems.
Magus of the Coffers/Korlash
Consume Spirit as a finish of the Coffers?
The curve is just so high though with those cards and you don't have A. Arena or DC for draw anymore.
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 Originally Posted by Guntrial
Shotgunlaw : rings + magus of the coffers dont work because you cant copy mana abilities. (and that would be out broken :P)
Anyone dares to make a deck, for T2, limited by Rakavolver expansions/set meantioned, with this card?
SeveredLegion : who uses disenchant, or other kind of removal for artifacts, main deck, in t2?
Oh, never actually thought about it that way. I was looking at mana ability more in a "tap stupid bug, get mana" I guess Coffers would fall into that category.
Still...rings + garza's + Korlash....MBC has enough to handle the goyf problems out there. Auger of Skulls and rings can put a -serious- hurt on control. I feel like I am almost exclusively focusing on black, but it seems like it has the most tools currently to use the rings.
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I personally like rings + Linessa + gravedigger/pitkeeper.
and p.s. this card will never see play because every deck I can think of uses Sunder.
Last edited by Sidney_Rotten; 09-12-2007 at 08:38 AM.
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 Originally Posted by Sidney_Rotten
I personally like rings + Linessa + gravedigger/pitkeeper.
and p.s. this card will never see play because every deck I can think of uses Sunder.
Tarmogoyf won't see play because it dies to Terror, Lighning Angel won't see play because it dies Terror, Creatures wont see play because of Wrath of God
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 Originally Posted by rohrecall
Tarmogoyf won't see play because it dies to Terror, Lighning Angel won't see play because it dies to Terror, Creatures wont see play because of Wrath of God 
LOL, I'm LIKING the sarcasm, rohrecall! Generally speaking, I don't like sarcasm on the Internet, because it generally translates POORLY to the written word, except when it's as obvious at that, in which case I VERY MUCH LOVE it!
But then again, you're English, and who does sarcasm better than them? Monty Python and The Minister of Silly Walks, anyone? 
You still haven't answered my Manchester question re Rigby and Gizmo, though. Please do, mate. Thanks.
 Originally Posted by rohrecall
There are so many cards to little combos out there to find, even if it doesn't make it into the top tier decks alot of casual players are going to have a field day with it.
Right on! And we can't see that one coming a mile away, can we!? lol
Compare the card with Mirari, someone, please.
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Just adding a final point to the discussion: "this card will not see play"
I think I better scoop whenever I face a blue deck because they can counter everything I do except lands....
Now seriously...this one of those cards that begs to be broken.So..anyone dares to make a deck for T2, without ravnica block, around this card, or it this card to make powerfull dual effects?
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@Rakavolver - I answered the Manchester question on page one. I unfortunately don't know those names, do they play at Fanboy3 in Manchester?
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I think people are going a little off the deep end in regards to this card. Sure, it is good - but most activated abilities are best when they are free or very cheap. This card can be attacked not only through disenchant but it's is effectively as vulnerable as the card it needs to duplicate.
It's most obvious abuse is with the planeswalkers since they *can* offer a major effect for free, but we have yet to see how vulnerable planeswalker will really be. Outside of plainswalkers there should be some pretty goofy combos but combos based on permanents remaining in play until you can go off (rather than spell based, or "combos" that deny resources while they are in play) are pretty fragile. Usually making strong casual decks, and sometimes interesting metagame calls but rarely defining formats.
Note that mirari decks were spell based combos, requiring only one permanent in play to go nuts.
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