Week 6: Forgotten Ancient / Crucible of Worlds

[Christen]

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/selecting10e/6

Very different cards IMO. Let's see:
1. Forgotten Ancient speeds up Graft decks. But by the time it comes out, it will only be for a few months. This card is better forgotten IMO.
2. Crucible of Worlds, now this card can be used by anyone. I don't mind having one in my SB. It's even good in some decks. I'd go for this one.

[fooligan]

theyre really adamant about proving their edits to ancient were still playabe...
one thing to note, graft and 10th will only be togther for like tops 4 months
i dont see ancient being very relevant/strong.

crucible on the other hand will be useful aslong as global land destruction is legal and cards like quicksand or ridiculous lands like our new sheets are played... the card means more cards... and we can assume that TS will bring some strong reprint or mechanic back that abuses this well...
id like that..

[clustro]

i would play crucible just for Ghost Quarter. hehe, that kind of combo-age seems to come more out of type1 than any other format.

[InsanityInc]

How does this one even qualify as a vote? Crucible of worlds is about 100x better.

[Stormseeker]

Crucible. No question about it.

[fooligan]

it qualifies b/c we have no idea wether crucible will be have any use other then helping against marginal land destruction decks...
and forgotten acient is a very decent guy that everyone seems to like especialy kids...
but then again most kids also have heard of what crucible has done in other formats, or are currently enamoured by cards that will work very well with it for 4 months...

[clustro]

ancient was great until they wrecked it. now its just another crap rare.
seriously.
a 0/2...for 3G. all they have to do is incinerate.

[Card Slinger J]

True but Ancient is still a really good card in my eyes, If you wait long enough in a group game he's gonna become huge. Shielding Plax helps with him as well so that he can't be targeted by your opponent.

Regardless Ancient is still really good in one-on-one as well, the more spells played the bigger he gets. Evolution Vat is insane on him as well too...

Crucible of Worlds on the other hand, I wouldn't mind seeing it get reprinted. It has great synergy with Vinelasher Kudzu, Simian Brawler, Fastbond, and Zuran Orb.

My vote would go to Crucible...

[fooligan]

hes a 0/3... he will never die to a 'cinerate

[Kird_Ape]

crucible of worlds, much better.

[lamb of god]

cruicible sounds the best of the two

[solemn_86]

Crucible is better, period!!

[Christen]

As I said, Forgotten Ancient better be forgotten.

[Cire_Xinehp]

just pointing this out, for the already apparent winner;
crucible-dredge anyone?

[priestblack]

well the way i see it, crucible is an awesome cand given that it has a usefulness in a deck. without sac-able lands/global destruction it wont be very useful. thus far mouth of rondom is the only real use for it once ravnica rotates. ancient on the other hand will always have a place. even after graft is gone we still have mono green with the troll being reprinted. as of now id go ancient, not saying that it is better but atleast we know. at this point, that it will see play.

[clustro]

erm, well, ghost quarter + crucible is also really strong. Tron would need something right then and there (or fully-assembled tron).
besides, as the person above said, this would be amazing in dredge. you could run all sorts of interesting lands, dredge them in, and put them into play pickwise, buffet-style.

[Christen]

Although we would only be able to use that for like 4 months.

But we don't know what Time Spiral would bring us, and Crucible can almost fit in any deck, if not a SB.

Wildfire + Crucible = Argh

[Trogdor!]

Crucible of Worlds, it wont even be close because crucible is plain better and is more fun and can be used in cooler combos than the ancient

[Pilloku]

I am voting for Crucible.