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PsYcHoShOcKeR
05-09-2006, 03:54 AM
Here is my exodia deck i need help on which cards to put in... i am making a stall type of deck... i need advice


Monsters:
1 Exodia the Forbidden One
1 Left Arm of the Forbidden One
1 Left Leg of the Forbidden One
1 Right Arm of the Forbidden One
1 Right Leg of the Forbidden One
1 Sangan
1 Witch of the Black Forest
3 Mystic Tomato
2 Cannon Soldier
3 Emissary Of The After Life


Magic’s:
1 Dark Hole
1 Graceful Charity
2 Messenger of Peace
1 Monster Reborn
1 Painful Choice
1 Pot of Greed
1 Premature Burial
1 Raigeki
1 Sword Of Revealing Light
2 Monster Reincarnation
1 Pot Of Avarice
2 Dark Door
2 Mass Production

Traps:
2 Waboku
2 Gravity Bind
1 Call of the Haunted
1 Imperial Order
1 Mirror Force
1 Ring Of Destruction
1 Torrential Tribute

Also i dont get cannon soliders eefect it said:
"Offer 1 monster on your side of the field as a tribute to inflict 500 points of direct dmg to your opponent's life points monsters used for a tribute summon or that are effect as tributes due to other cards effects are excluded"

Does that mean that emmisary and sangan and witch of black forest effects dont work and i dont get exodia pieces please help me on... i wanna make a good exodia deck

Necrofear
05-09-2006, 08:40 AM
i think emassary is battle only, but witch and sangan work with cannon's effect yes. this looks like a classic exoida deck, though the tomatos may cause you some issues...

TrUe777!
05-09-2006, 03:42 PM
its looking g00d.. but i agree with necrofear

PsYcHoShOcKeR
05-09-2006, 04:07 PM
no emmisary card saids"When this card is sent from the field to the graveyard each player selects 1 level 3 or lower normal monster from his/her deck and adds it to his/her hand after showing it to the oppenent. The deck is now shuffled
So my point is it is the same as witch and sangan effect.

And can u tell me how mystic tomatos will give me a problem

Also is there any other cards i can add to my deck

Necrofear
05-09-2006, 04:46 PM
if you start off with witch and sangan in your hand, he attacks your tomato, eventually you will start having to summon the exodia pieces. also, consider Pharaoh's Turesure

IllusionKnight
05-09-2006, 04:51 PM
Mystic Tomatoes will cause you a major problem because they summon monsters to the field, not add them to your hand. Chain a Compulsory, however, and you have a very nice combo to work with.
I recommend adding some wall monsters. Gear Golem the Moving Fortress and Stone Statue of the Aztecs are both very nice choices. Then use Chorus of Sanctuary to make your wall even more solid. You may want Continuous Destruction Punch to make them afraid to attack your wall at all, and Toll to make them even more reluctant to do so. Having a Yamata Dragon that you can Set is extremely effective for 3 reasons:
1: Gets you out of a monster trap
2: Gives you a nearly impenetrable wall
3: Gives you a fresh hand
Then put in Final Countdown. I know this isn't exactly a staple of Exodia Decks, but I've won many duels with this. One must always consider the possibility of a well-timed Card Destruction, and if Exodia fails, keep your wall up and stall to win with Countdown. Also take out some of the cards that are generally considered staples. This is not a beatdown Deck, so you probably won't need Dark Hole, Raigeki, Premature Burial, or Call of the Haunted. And take out Monster Reincarnation, Dark Factory of Mass Production is enough, though you may want to add a third of that. If you're still lost, check out my Fortress Strike Deck. It is essentially an Exodia Deck, and though I still need to work out the kinks, it does have many of the ideas I discussed here, and I hope you find my advice useful.

Verdaloth
05-09-2006, 07:27 PM
Peten is nice, help thin the deck, so would any card that searchs...3 pyramids 3 giant rat..etc. mirrage of nightmare might help too...but try to keep your hand pretty full as you dont wanna discard everything.

PsYcHoShOcKeR
05-10-2006, 03:53 AM
Ok for one thing mystic tomatoes help me out to gather cannon slider and witch and sangan... also it is said u may take out a 1500 monster or less it says i dont have to get one

Also Premature Burial, or Call of the Haunted helps me summon more of witch and sangan and emissary so i can gain more exodia pieces faster.. so i need them

And if someone plays drop off decks or using chaos empreror dragon i need mass production and monster reincartion to get me exodia pieces back

Also ya i need defense because i get owned so badly when... so i might add peten to keep summoning monsters and stone staute of aztecs and gear golem to get my def in check....

Also is wall islluion is another good card to put so u can summon out with mystic tomato

I Also need to add scapegoats to launch with cannon solider and to keep my def up

Thanks for the help guys i still need more tips to make a exodia deck good

i dont want my deck to be a deck drawer cuz to much of a hassle i want my deck to keep searching for exodia pieces make it go faster

IllusionKnight
05-10-2006, 05:56 PM
I'll put my recommendations simply (the ones I highly recommend are bolded):

+1 Yamata Dragon
-1 Monster Reincarnation
+3 Compulsory Evacuation Device
+1 Scapegoat
+1 Dark Factory of Mass Production
-1 Monster Reincarnation
-1 Imperial Order
-2 Cannon Soldier

If you're running an Exodia stall deck, Cannon Soldier is more of a hindrance than a help. It destroys your wall, thus doing your opponent's job for them.
As I've said before, Yamata Dragon is a very powerful wall AND it has drawing abilities, making it an excellent addition to any Exodia Deck. Believe me, I know.
Imperial Order blocks all your spells, which are your best weapon with this Deck, and it costs you 700 LP per turn! Wrong Deck, wrong place, wrong time.
Compulsory Evacuation Device + Mystic Tomato + Exodia cards. Very powerful combo, and if necessary Compulsory can be used defensively too.

TrUe777!
05-11-2006, 05:07 AM
-imperial..????? i dont think soo.. its too g00d .. its a staple..

RAZZZ()R_F!$T
05-11-2006, 07:48 AM
Let me explain this a little. Witch of the black forests effect only activates when it is sent from the field to the graveyard. So, basically when it is removed from the field, it's effect activates instantly. Badabing!

IllusionKnight
05-11-2006, 01:08 PM
-imperial..????? i dont think soo.. its too g00d .. its a staple..
ARE YOU INSANE!!!
With this deck, its effect basically becomes "Pay 700 LP per turn to negate the effects of your opponent's Spell Cards, as well as half the bleeping Deck of this player"!! Including some of the best stall cards! Sometimes monsters aren't enough to stall! You need cards like Dark Door and Swords of Revealing Light to stall! Not to mention every card used to get back Exodia from the Graveyard, like Dark Factory and Reincarnation!
Just because a card is a staple doesn't mean it belongs in every Deck! My beatdown Deck doesn't even utilize it!

TrUe777!
05-11-2006, 04:30 PM
soorry didnt see that way..

IllusionKnight
05-11-2006, 07:39 PM
Ok, sorry, I know I went overkill with that a little...:o

But my point remains valid. With every Deck comes cards that that Deck just shouldn't run, some of which will naturally be staples. For example, Call of the Haunted, regarded as one of the best staples, would be a dead draw most of the time in a Macrocosmos deck. Running a card on the sole basis that it is a staple is just dumb.

DarkMaster3
05-15-2006, 03:45 PM
unless u want it to be traditional format u should take out alot of cards like witch, imperial order and stuff. but yeah u can still get emissary's effect and sangan's effect too with cannon soldier.

dr_nova
05-15-2006, 04:30 PM
ARE YOU INSANE!!!
With this deck, its effect basically becomes "Pay 700 LP per turn to negate the effects of your opponent's Spell Cards, as well as half the bleeping Deck of this player"!! Including some of the best stall cards! Sometimes monsters aren't enough to stall! You need cards like Dark Door and Swords of Revealing Light to stall! Not to mention every card used to get back Exodia from the Graveyard, like Dark Factory and Reincarnation!
Just because a card is a staple doesn't mean it belongs in every Deck! My beatdown Deck doesn't even utilize it!

700 life point is a low price to negate something like a deliquent duo that would destroy an important card like exodia the forbidden one, dark factory of mass production or monster reincarnation.

IllusionKnight
05-16-2006, 02:53 PM
Dr. Nova, you don't seem to know Imperial that well.
It negates ALL SPELL CARDS, YOURS INCLUDED!!!
And this Deck can't live with that! What good are Dark Factory and Reincarnation if you can't use them???

Kyouji Kagami
05-18-2006, 07:46 AM
Here is my exodia deck i need help on which cards to put in... i am making a stall type of deck... i need advice


Monsters: 17
1 Exodia the Forbidden One
1 Left Arm of the Forbidden One
1 Left Leg of the Forbidden One
1 Right Arm of the Forbidden One
1 Right Leg of the Forbidden One
1 Sangan
1 Witch of the Black Forest
2 Cannon Soldier
3 Emissary Of The After Life
1 The Creator
1 Millennium Shield
1 Spirit Reaper
2 Mystic tomato

Magic’s: 12
1 Dark Hole
1 Graceful Charity
1 Monster Reborn
1 Painful Choice
1 Pot of Greed
1 Premature Burial
1 Raigeki
1 Sword Of Revealing Light
1 Upstart Goblin
2 shallow grave

Traps:
2 Gravity Bind
1 Call of the Haunted
1 Imperial Order
1 Mirror Force
1 Ring Of Destruction
1 Torrential Tribute
3 Jar of greed
2 Backup soldier


Back in the day before the bans This is pretty much what I used (with out creator of course)(Note: DO NOT GET PEICES WITH TOMATO.. get sangan and witch with them.. thats what they are ment for)

Kyouji Kagami
05-18-2006, 07:48 AM
ARE YOU INSANE!!!
With this deck, its effect basically becomes "Pay 700 LP per turn to negate the effects of your opponent's Spell Cards, as well as half the bleeping Deck of this player"!! Including some of the best stall cards! Sometimes monsters aren't enough to stall! You need cards like Dark Door and Swords of Revealing Light to stall! Not to mention every card used to get back Exodia from the Graveyard, like Dark Factory and Reincarnation!
Just because a card is a staple doesn't mean it belongs in every Deck! My beatdown Deck doesn't even utilize it!

He can simply choose not to pay for it.. BAM free magic jammer.. that in it self is worth it to prevent a nobleman or a Harpies Feather duster or a D.D. Designator

......
05-18-2006, 11:29 PM
If you want you could try this:

5 parts of exodia
pot of greed
pot of avarice
3x heart of the underdog
maybe some Different dimension capsules and jar of greed
a whole bunch of normal monsters, preferably high-def ones but it doesn't really matter.

That's the deck. You get heart of the underdog down and you can just keep drawing over and over again in your draw phase as long as you get normal monsters. Meaning you just keep drawing until you get exodia.

dox
05-19-2006, 11:13 AM
i run an exodia deck, and ive discovered that "The Ordeal of the Traveller" is an extremely good stalling card... i have two in my exodia deck

Zuo Ci
05-27-2006, 11:52 AM
Dear Psycho Shocker, I see what kind of deck you got, a good way to start an Exodia deck, good job getting the 5 pieces, however there are some flaws to your deck you should know. First up you only got 15 monsters out of a basic 20, I suggest you get more monsters in your deck, how about getting some Magician of Faith, or even strong defenders like Gear Golem the Moving Fortress, it will increase your defenses longer, without monsters on the field, your vunerable to losing LP. 3 Mystic Tomatoes are Okay, I hope that strategy works for you getting certain dark monsters on the field. Try getting another messenger of peace in your deck, I have 3 in mine. Try putting in Level Limit Area B in there as well, swords of revealing light is a great defense for 3 turns. Dark Factory of Mass Production hasn't been working for me that much, I haven't even played this card since none of my pieces are in the graveyard, so its up to you if you want to keep the production cards in your deck of not, I didn't need them anymore. Wabokus are not that useful, but keep Mirror Force, I love that card though I dont own one, its like a backup plan. 2 Gravitiy Binds is another great idea. Imperial Order is one powerful card not meant for tournaments, but I like this card, keep it in your deck in case a certain magic card happens to get rid of your pieces in your hand. I recommend getting rid of Ring of Destruction, its good to sacrifice a monster to obtain a piece, but is risking your LP worth it? So I suggest using a 40 card deck like mine, its at the miniumum, and soon you'll be an Exodia Master like me, good luck if your participating in a torunament, and never toss out a useless monster like Exodia, ive seen people think Exodia is weak, but when used right, I know I will win. Hope my advice helps you, let me know how you do.

Sincerelly,
Zuo Ci :D

ultimatezombie
05-27-2006, 03:31 PM
This thread is now CLOSED!
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shut up you ***** and just get banned already.

Zuo Ci
05-27-2006, 05:03 PM
Um excuse me, but thats not how you talk to other duelists who need help. After all, even if I havent dueled for months, its not right of you to just use explicit lanquage to me and to anyone else. I will not heed your advice to have myself banned from this site. I love giving advice to people who need help with dueling, so dont ever try this stunt again. And remember no means no. For now, just let it go by the flow and never insult a duelist like me again, thank you.

:( If you want to be respected by others, show yourself some manners.

PsYcHoShOcKeR
05-27-2006, 11:31 PM
thanks for the help Zuo Ci, i will take some of your advice... for ultimatezombie please dont swear at other players that r just trying to help

ultimatezombie
05-28-2006, 12:03 PM
Um excuse me, but thats not how you talk to other duelists who need help. After all, even if I havent dueled for months, its not right of you to just use explicit lanquage to me and to anyone else. I will not heed your advice to have myself banned from this site. I love giving advice to people who need help with dueling, so dont ever try this stunt again. And remember no means no. For now, just let it go by the flow and never insult a duelist like me again, thank you.

:( If you want to be respected by others, show yourself some manners.

oh im sorry i was not talking to you i put the quote up to say that i was talking to unimatrix. . im sorry if you though that i was talking about you, i wasnt, i think your a good person for helping everyone out,so im sorry if you though i was talking to you.

sorry everyone for the langues i just dont like people who spam up this site

Zuo Ci
05-28-2006, 12:53 PM
Dear Ultimatezombie,

I understand, it think this is the first time I thought I was insulted, but it turns out that I wasn't the one after all. I have seen this in anime and television. Besides you are already forgiven from me. Everyone, this person was not aiming at me, its someone else, this person derserves to be forgiven. If you want some of my card tips, let me know, i'll been online very often when im available. You deserve honor from me.

Sincerelly,
Zuo Ci :o

Revolt
05-29-2006, 06:52 PM
well i think we can all agree that the biggest stall card is spirit reaper....about three of em will stalll for a while...lol...

Zuo Ci
05-29-2006, 11:00 PM
Dear Revolt,

Yes it is true that Sprit Reaper cant be destroyed as a result of battle. However Revolt, there are 3 things wrong with this card everyone should know. Its not because its a weak card, its just this:

1. Once it gets targeted by a spell, Spirit Reaper gets destroyed, ouch!

2. You could still lose LP, if any effect involves an ATK is higher than Spirit Reapers DEF, that still hurts!

3. Using Sprit Reaper in ATK mode is so tricky because it has low ATK.

Good try Revolt, your idea was worth it anyway, just keep sending your ideas and one day that will work.

Sincerelly,
Zuo Ci :eek:

D.Paladin
06-02-2006, 02:22 PM
here's somethin else to add
+Infinite Cards
+Gravity Bind
+3 Bokoichi
+1 Dekoichi
+3 Good Goblin Housekeeping
+Stone Statue of the Aztecs
+2 Tolls
+Backup Soldier
+Card of Safe Return
+Call of the Haunted
+Premature Burial

did i leave nething out? Oh, and this is for TrUe777!:

Je suis un tres grande pomme de terre a la maison!

Do u kno wut it means?

Archer4lyf
06-05-2006, 02:46 PM
try and get your hands on a card of safe return! it will help u cause u have so many recarnation cards

dr_nova
06-05-2006, 03:53 PM
did i leave nething out? Oh, and this is for TrUe777!:

Je suis un tres grande pomme de terre a la maison!

Do u kno wut it means?

Sorry for you but it doesn't mean anything ! You said you were a giant potato at home. But you made some mistakes it's not "un" it's "une" and it's not "tres" it's "très" and it's not "a" it's "à". You need to study your French my friend !!! Try harder, i know you can do it.;)