366 Days....

[RLRL]

We have been at TCGPlayer for 366 days now.... and quite frankly.. it is doing nothing for us...

Looking over the old forums recently, I have noticed many things, mostly ill make it blunt...

If you click "last post" on the old members listing, you will see a huge list of names of people that posted in the last 48 hours of life... it leads onto the 3rd page of listings (excluding the 3 mods at the top of the list who posted (aparently) on the 18th, the day after the bulk of people moved).. As we moved we had less than 50 people come across with us...

870 of 1215 Members have made 108722 posts

yes we had alot of members that did not actually make a post once they signed up to the forums (granted alot signed up, saw Gary Oak flame people and ran away screaming) but still... we were a growing community... if you look at the stats at the bottom of the main page we even had a member join the day we moved, they were never heard of again for the record... Still we had practically noone from our actual database that actually came across with us...

This section is one of the least posted in out of the whole forum, I think the only lower is Hecatomb but that game didn't pick up much to my understanding... Still... its not good... we used to have a thriving community, posts flooding inwards... the top 10 topics of Misc Topics were posted on in the last day of life in the old forums, now we're lucky if we sustain 10 active topics over the whole forum!

What has kept us alive... to be honest, its the efforts of the last few pokéschoolers, Hurt and Heal (Everyone wanted to see it end)... The PSP vs DS topic... Flame wars, they hurt the forum, but they kept us active, even if it was just me and stonewall ripping apart Groudon80 and his "chums" and almost getting banned ourselves, at least the forum was active at that point... Guilty/Innocent game...Theres a few smaller topics like my "What are you listening to right now" topic etc, but overall yeah thats whats kept people coming to the forum, how sad is that!

Chedy, I am addressing you formally now.... Unlock our old forums, for 48 hours, if we make 750, non spam posts in that time, we can keep the forums how they USED to be... before the move, so we would exist once again as pokeschool.com/forum.... I wager purely giving the forums their independance back will actually mean we get more members than at this forum... Member attrition is a natural part of a forum, however we used to keep our numbers high by having new members constantly replace the ones that left, since we moved, noone has replaced the lost members, and its not done us any favours...

We've been here 366 days... and personally... Id rather have the old place back.... I've been at the old boards less time than I have these, but I still see them as being my home... It was a community, sod it... Pokéschool is my family (Nems my Father, Linkachu is my mother, Gary is my crazy uncle that is off touring the globe and peeks in occasionally, Lugiasian is my sister, Yoshi and UC are my brothers, and everyone else ive forgotten to mention is like a cousin of sorts!) Thats what we are... We're not a sub forum... we never needed to be... 48 hours, thats all we want... give us our independance...

*prepares for intense flaming*

[Yoshimitsu27]

Copy and pasted old mini-rant:

I, personally, don't thank you, Chedy. What can I thank you for? Killing the boards, trying (and failing) to keep people here with false promises like IMG tags? You said the same thing about them before. And where are they? Exactly.

Chedy, the move here was the stupidest thing that's happened, even worse than all the spammers. How many people came over when the boards first moved? About a tenth of what was on the old boards. The switch to the boards was too much hassle for some people. Hell, I even had trouble getting in again. My account didn't get an activation thing, or whatever it was we needed. I had to sign up for a new one. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

And what about people who had to have PKS added to their names? Their names before were unique (Mostly *Glares at Pikachu*) and a reflection of who they are. For example, Lee Tupper. People with PKS added to the front, to me at any rate, seem more uniform, and similar. It's kinda like the army in my eyes. Or what I think of the army I know. Yeah, I know their old names were used, but that's beside the point. Since they didn't get a choice in the matter, and were forced to come over here, why not give the other members something like "YGO" or "MtG" in front of their names instead?

Now for the IMG tags. The avatars are nice, yeah. It's pretty cool having Maleficent in my Avatar right now. But I'd rather have a signature. I realise that the IMG tags can be abused. Lord knows that's true, some of the forums I've been to got spammed with all sorts of crap. It's still entirely possible to limit the images though. Look at the avatars again - 100x100 pixels, no more than 19.6kbs (I think). You could do something similar with those.

Now for the RP boards. Since the move, nearly all the RPers didn't come over at first, if at all. I know some people didn't come, Misty and Vaporeon (I think), Asmo, Ch@n (I didn't know them personally, but whatever). Either they didn't have the time, which I wouldn't count on, or they didn't see any point in wasting the effort switching to another forum. Now let's look at people who did come, eventually. I must admit that I, personally, found it hard to actually access the boards at the switch. Some people, I'm sure, would have had similar issues accessing the boards and activating their accounts again.

I'm not the only one who thinks this either. I'm sure loads of people do too. I mean, you changed Pokeschool's name to something like "Pokemon @ TCGPlayer.com" or something stupid like that. Pokeschool was our IDENTITY. We didn't want to conform to some stupid name. How did you think we'd react?

I've checked and it still isn't Pokeschool. The only think we have is Psyduck. Anyway...

[Prof. Cinders]

Having received the friendliest member award, along with Katie, I don't usually post in these sort of topics. And I can't write long posts even for a cookie (gasp!). And I've never flamed anyone, to my memory. Oh, and I've been on Pokeschool for almost two years. But of course, I was outraged at the move. I heard about it about a week before it happened, then one day I went onto the forums and was confronted with a great long message saying, basically, "btw, we moved today. Here's a link". I know it was a lot more long winded, but that's basically it. Nothing friendly or anything. And half the people I used to talk to suddenly vanished.

I know, a lot of people I talk to on msn, but a lot more I never heard from again. RPing suddenly went from "Lee Tupper's awards! So many points for this, so many points for that..." to "..." I mean, wtf?!?! I'd introduced two characters, was nearing the lead, and suddenly the whole thing was cancelled because of the move! I gave up PRPing to help ORP more, having my own forum to PRP on, and still "..." For crying out loud!

Finally, img tags. They were some of my favourite things. My banner was kewl, I had an identity made by a picture. Sprites were more easily viewed, even if a page sometimes loaded slower. I could put mini-versions of my own pics up, maybe even getting another award (they're something of a rarity for me). I'm blasted fed up with losing half my identity online. I would swear, but I think Katie would faint if I did ;) Anyway, please, give us the old boards back for like 2 days and we'll prove that we're still a huge community - and even if we're not, we'll be a lot happier. I certainly will at any rate.

[machoke fan]

Hi everyone... RLRL showed me this thread so I had 2 find and change password 2 get on :s, main reason why I left was basically because the site got moved and well...
If the site was moved back, I would probably make an effort to post again...hope it goes back and ill randomly post sometimes I guess...

[praetoritevong]

I most certainly did not win Friendliest Member, for damn good reason. If this ain't hint enough. It was 870 of 1215 back then, but just try telling us that 870 different people have posted here. It gets a little disturbing, sometimes. I recently noticed on the site that says pokemon.tcgplayer.com (??? What the hell happened to identity? We don't want to be TCGPlayer.com, we don't like TCGPlayer.com in general, and the only thing it's ever done for us is to send our boards into quiet oblivion), there's a recent posts box. Then I noticed that about 3/4 of those recent posts, were me. At any one time there are usually only 2 or at most 3 different members on that list, usually a variation of me, Loogs, El, RL, Pika or Jessie (sorry if I left anyone out).

We don't even need to check to tell this isn't Pokéschool. That much is obvious. So how much more original is this, then, ("The original Pokemon Forums") if it's not even us any more, just a branch of TCGPlayer? You can't advertise it at being Pokeschool anymore. People used to actually hear about Pokeschool, and look it up. I did. You look up Pokeschool, and you find TCGPlayer.com. I didn't look up Pokéschool or join Pokéschool because I liked TCGPlayer.com, I did it because I liked Pokéschool! This is a lot of things, and compared to the old boards, none of which are better. The old Pokéschool was better in every way you could imagine. We didn't have some big label incorporating us into their group like a takeover. We had several times more posts a day. There were days when I could post 50, 100 posts per day, without spamming, simply by going through the forums after about 3 days of not coming on, and replying to everything I could that I had an interest in, or that I could offer an opinion on. I'm lucky to find 5 topics with posts to go post at. Now there damn well has not been one single day of these last 366 where we've come close to matching that in terms of total posts by everyone, let alone one member. Shows you the difference in posting rates. Someone recently suggested a posting spree. I basically thought, "I'd be able to on the old boards." Then I looked at these boards and it's dead obvious how far this is from Pokéschool. This is TCGPlayer.com now, a big label with no identity for its members, that's what this is. Oh, and there's a cute little psyduck which tells us something which in reality is incorrect.

Hell, all the forums I used to visit as much as I could are shadows of what they used to be. The miscellaneous forum is lucky to have two or three threads that have been posted in since yesterday, when I last came on. The last bloody topic on the bottom of page one of Miscell. Topics was from the 26th November 2005! At Pokéschool, it would've been unusual to find topics more than 5 days old on the first page, if that.

The fanfiction forums are rarely written in. Only Jessie is consistently writing fics, and the two of are the only two experienced (as in, forum experience) writers that still regularly comment on fics. Gone are the days of posting a chapter, and the next day, seeing 7 replies. Of Michael Corleone, Emerald Espeon, Kas85, just to name a few. All good authors in their own right, all good people in their own right - just didn't like the move. In that one move we lost 75% of our authors. And now that Fanfiction forum is like a snail. Occasionally it shows hints of traffic - stop, start, stop start - but very rarely. We no longer have anywhere near the activity for Fanfiction awards, for example, as well.

Books and Writing also, very few people actually reply to posted stories, as I've been seeing. Just about every other forum I've seen and posted that in, with 1/1000th of the members, someone has read and responded. At Pokéschool, it would've been 10 replies. Again I try to get around to rating those stories as well, and I did one that was longer than the story I was rating yesterday - but those days are practically non-existant. Barely anyone rates, and authors here seem to be writing to shadow crowds - people who read but don't post.

The problem here isn't that our authors aren't replying, for the most part, which may be true to some extent, that authors aren't rating each other enough, instead hoping for others to rate them, but the fact is we don't have anywhere near the numbers of authors we had had before. We would get at least one new author a week. Granted, in cases such as champy_king, that was not a good thing. But, in most cases, it was, and hence came members like Persian (Nyaa-Neko), who may have started out as fairly average writers, but after the huge amounts of criticism, has turned out to be one of the finest writers at Pokéschool, if not the best.

Members like machoke above, simply didn't come at all. Many came, saw this, and were horrified, and didn't come back. I don't blame them. This is not Pokéschool. Endless promises, actions, and yet this place is nothing like Pokéschool. There are only two resemblences here, the logo and the oldest members.

Now, imagine if we could open the boards for two days. Hell, we'd get a heck of a lot more posts than this old thing would get. And maybe some members might be willing to come back for a day or two, and see what we can get up.

Now, there's a hell of a lot more wrong here, a hell of a lot that I could talk about, and completely nail, but the others have spoken, too, and it's pretty clear, our requests and our problems and our needs.

Not that much has been done.

[Yoshimitsu27]

You have got to look at one thing, though.

Chedy doesn't care about any of this. Even when he gave us back the Psyduck, he only did it so that we'd shut up about it. He hasn't done anything for us since we moved here, really, and I, for one, am really offended by this.

[Salamence-trainer221]

Well, I don't really want to be the bearer of bad news, but realistically, Chedy is never going to open those forums. I only see a very, very small chance that he would. And I mean really small. I would really love to see it happen though.

I just think....that we've all been complaining about this for way to long. I've come to terms with the move, I don't like it as much as anyone else, but I've come to terms with it. I think the key to Pokeschool's success here is our RP. I've noticed that when are thriving in the role playing areas, the rest of the board compliments off of that. Just look at today, we have 4 new, very good PRP'ers and we have gotten a lot of activity today. I'm not saying RP is the only way, but to me, it seems like it does...

Meh...I dunno....we've asked him to give us our old boards back for a year and we haven't gotten anything....I doubt this is going to change anything.

[Linkachu]

I somewhat agree with you on that, Sally. We've been asking for the old forums back since the move and Chedy has held his foot firmly on the decision not to. I've pretty much lost all hope now that it's a possibility at all.

That said, I do not think we should stop complaining. No... The day people do finally lay down and accept it is they day they might as well leave this place for good. This place is still, after a whole year, cold and steelly. It is not welcoming the way it used to be whatsoever, and the only thing that even keeps it standing is members like those guys above. This place would have been dead long ago or turned into a spamhole without everyone who's stuck it out, and they deserve their say as long as the have the will to say it. Why are those new PRP members here? For this forum? No. They're here because Pokeschool established a unique RPing style all of its own, one that is and has been slowly dying ever since the move.

So yeah... Sometimes I wonder why the heck I haven't skipped town yet and just pushed Pokeschool out of my mind for good, but then I remember why I joined in the first place. I love the people of this community and I like posting with them. Many, many of the ones who still remain today I consider aquaintances or good friends (if not best friends). No matter how dead this place is I can not get that anywhere else, because they're not anywhere else. They're right here, and as long as they stick around I probably will too.

[Yagei Mitsukai]

Umm. As far as I can see, the old forums were much more popular then this one. I have no say-so in what happens, since I was just looking for a Pokemon Role-Playing site, and lo-and-behold, this one came up at me from the google search. However, I greatly enjoy it here, and if the website gets moved, I'll do my best to try and figure out how to stay with ya'll. *twitches nervously*
So, umm, I guess I'll just be quiet. I wanted to let everyone know that I plan on being a member for a long time--maybe I'll even win some awards next year. Just don't leave me behind if you move. And if you don't, well, I'm deeply sorry for each and every one that got torn from the old website.
P.S-If this post seems a waste of space, I apologise. Just tell me and I'll be more than willing to delete it. It's the thought that counts...right?
=^..^= - Meow.

[Blastoise]

I personally would like to hold a more optimistic view on this whole move. We have been here for a whole year, yet we have still been complainning about the move. Does anyone have a solution for this? I personally don't, nor I think that anyone else will have one.

I think, although I am sure there are a lot others that will disagree, we should just simply move on. Not forgetting the old PokeSchool of course, but let it develop into a new one. True to Gary's words, I agree with him that PokeSchool has been going down-hills before the move, it is just that the move just made a deeper cut then ever before.

Complaining about the past would not help the future. If we think we could never rise back up, then we'll never rise back up. Just my two cents.

[Linkachu]

I know what you're trying to say Blastoise, but to put it bluntly... I have no feelings for this board. At all. And I haven't for quite some time now. The only reason I'm still here is because others are. I do not believe the lack of progression to rise up once again is simply from holding onto the past. Countless times people have said "let's make do with what we have" and others have done just that. Countless times we've tried to rebuild what was lost and make this a place we can feel comfortable and at home with.

And none of it has helped. A year is a long time and a lot has happened over it, but Pokeschool regaining even a shred of what it once was has not. I'm sorry to be negative, but at this rate I do not think it ever will, not unless people strive for change. And for the record, I think "complaining" is the wrong word here. Is that what everyone is doing, or are they just asking desprately for a change that might actually improve this place?

People have tried to accept this board, and look where it got us.

(Please don't take offense to this, Blastoise. It's all just general comments/feelings about the situation. Same goes for my reply to Sally and any future posts I make of this nature)

[PKS LeeTupper]

Here's an idea! Let's all whine at the deaf man!

[Linkachu]

Stomping on his foot might help. Or poking him in the back enough until it becomes too annoying to ignore. That would generally be the time when I start breaking fingers, tho :P

Even if this topic gets no response it has done what it was meant to do, IMO anyways.

[Bullados]

Initially, the move to this forum was relatively expected, but still a shock to the system. The entire community built something special on the old boards, and many felt that it would not be worth the work to build it back up again here. Actually, for a pretty decent example of what I'm talking about, look no further than the Pokegym. Granted, it was the official Pokemon TCG message boards for a while, but it still had to suffer through the initial pains of being ousted and having to reform. It took them about 6 months to fully reform into the message board and general information area that it was always known for.

That example was the single most well known message board community for Pokemon in America on the entire internet. Pokeschool was never a top TCG community, which is the easiest to move cuz the discussions can just start right up again. Pokeschool became more of an RP and Fanfic site. This is next to impossible to move without some type of reprucussions. The initial move was ill-advised, but after a year, it'll be harder to move BACK to the original boards.

As far as I'm concerned, look at what's going on right now. We've gotten at least 3 good and active RPers in the last month. The fanfic section is posted on at least once a day, from what I've seen. For a year after a major move where none of the old topics were moved over (a major mistake not to move those, BTW), that's pretty good.

The Misc section isn't as well populated as it could be, but that's mostly due to the rebuilding process. Namely, many of the old people who left will refuse to come back. Therefore, we have to get new people in here to continue Pokeschool's relative success as being one of the longest running Pokemon-only sites on the internet (I don't include Pojo in that list, and Pokeschool looks to be going the same way as Pojo is now).

Not sure what else I have to say here. Njoy...

[Linkachu]

Two days. That's all RL wanted for this. He didn't say he wanted to move back forever. 48 hours to prove a point, or disprove. Whichever way you take it. But obviously that's not going to happen.

For a year after a major move where none of the old topics were moved over (a major mistake not to move those, BTW), that's pretty good.

I do not agree with that. I'm being stubborn, but eh. Having the burst of activity in PRP is rocking supremely and I'm beyond glad for it, but compared to what there was before? No... It just doesn't. We would've had all these new RPers PLUS about 30 others.

I'm starting to see mixed feelings about this topic and don't think it's worth dragging it out - RL can decide that. It's great to see that some of you have accepted this place as the new home for Pokeschool, but for me this will never be that. Pokeschool, the one I heard the countless stories about, finally joined, and over a brief period fell in love with, is dead. This isn't it. I'm not quite sure what this is, but it isn't "Pokeschool". This is now just another forum on the web with members from the original Pokeschool boards. Maybe it will transform into something new someday - develop itself a name all its own. That'd be cool because it'd be proving my predictions wrong. But it will never be able to completely reclaim what it was. That's just a reality I've dealt with, and if people wonder "Why are you still here then?" I refer you back to my first post in this topic.

And that's it from me (hopefully. My aimless melodramatics must end before I slap myself - or someone does it for me). Continue with yer lives, and long live Pokeschool.

[RLRL]

Gotta say, I welcome the new members that we have, the new people we've had over the past few weeks are incredibly talented at RPing which is an important part of Pokéschool... And yet, I have to think, how many good RPers would we have without the move, how many more spriters would we have (Remember Magnetron anyone, he was excellent), 48 hours, thats all I request, its just a chance for us to see if we really were the community we once were, or is the bleakness of this current forum clouding my memories into believing it is better than it really is...
Yes I realise this whole topic is fairly pointless seeing as Chedy will probably not even read this, let alone respond in the way we want...

[Yoshimitsu27]

Like I said, Chedy doesn't give a rat's arse about us. But it's worth a shot. If he does agree, we can at least prove that it was indeed the forum switch that killed us (even though we already know).

[praetoritevong]

That example was the single most well known message board community for Pokemon in America on the entire internet. Pokeschool was never a top TCG community, which is the easiest to move cuz the discussions can just start right up again. Pokeschool became more of an RP and Fanfic site. This is next to impossible to move without some type of reprucussions. The initial move was ill-advised, but after a year, it'll be harder to move BACK to the original boards.

As far as I'm concerned, look at what's going on right now. We've gotten at least 3 good and active RPers in the last month. The fanfic section is posted on at least once a day, from what I've seen. For a year after a major move where none of the old topics were moved over (a major mistake not to move those, BTW), that's pretty good.

Pokeschool certainly did become an RP/Fanfic site. Look at the Fanfic especially now. 1 post a day??? One bloody post per day? Half of those are Jessie for god's sake, posting her fine stories! Even to the end of the old forums, there'd be several posts a day. When I was writing my Fanfic, there were 10 posts a day. We have about a tenth of the former posting in Fanfics, with no-one rating, especially in Books and Writing. Comparatively, and realistically it may as well be as dead as a stone. I actually received a PM from an author requesting a review basically because no-one had in fact reviewed it, now I'll be damned if that would've ever arisen on the old boards.

We've gotten 3 good Rpers this month. For the first time in about 6 months. If that.


Fact, is, it is not pretty good, and it definitely is not good for an entire year's worth of moves.

[Abhorsen]

I had been going to Pokeschool for years. I also used to flick through the old forums too. I never did join up to any of them, or make myself known at all. I remember when Magmar left Pokeschool and then all there was left was Baboon. I only realised that the site which I visited the most was the site which never had updates. I slowly stopped visiting Pokeschool, I used to go everyday, but that changed to 3-4 times a week. Then I saw Baboon's plee for help. I decided that I would help out instead of sitting back and waiting for people to do it instead. I wrote the PotW articles, I enjoyed writing them. That was the reason I signed up for the boards here, since people started commenting on them, so i had to reply. I eventually got busy with other things and they turned out to be 1 every few weeks. Pokeschool never picked up from there. Now I just cant be bothered to do the PotW since I know that they will be read by only a few people. I really dont see the point anymore.

I admit that I do like posting in the Guily/Innocent game and other topics like that, but this is the board that I post least on which i'm joined up to. Pokebeach forums only started up again 2-3 weeks ago and I already have the same amount of posts as I do here. When I have been a member here for 6 months or so... I like helping people with their teams and sometimes with decks but there are never any teams anymore, and the decks which are posted are almost archtypes that they dont much need fixing. The posts which I enjoy the most are in the Videogame thread. PSP or DS was fun to post in, even though every post was an attack at the last.

If the old boards will get more members to post then I saw that they should be opened up. From the response we get here in the forums, i dont see that happening at all. Chedy isnt gonna do it.

[ImJessieTR]

Only Jessie is consistently writing fics

lol ... because I ... just ... can't ... seem ... to ... stop ... :D

Seriously, I thought about leaving too after the move. I think I was still on my TR trilogy at the time, but I can't remember now. I miss Persian. I miss Michael Corleone, who I still talk to sometimes on Porygon's Shrine, but that site is dying too -- as in MC and I are just about the only people who post there (coughplugcough). The atmosphere is different, but there have been some amusing and thought-provoking threads here. I admit I don't visit the Misc section very often unless there's an outrageous topic. I'm not into Misc games -- I mean, I don't change my avatar so playing that (rate the avatar) repeatedly is useless ... I try to look up new fanfics and post something, even if it is just words of encouragement to continue to hone their skills. Am I mad that no one besides Prae and a couple of others have reviewed my most recent fics? Sure. But I sigh and realize that it's the same way on all the boards where I post these. In fact, the reason they're now on quite a few boards was so I could increase my readership because the fanfic boards here are on life support. I've thought about stopping altogether (once I get done with To Care for Him) and creating my own board dedicated to writing, but I'm still wishy-washy on that. I would rather not leave. The people who left just because they were mad at the switch should post here -- it wasn't the layout that made us pokeschool -- it was the people behind the myriad posts. The few people who are left seem to have set up expert roles for themselves (like Prof Cinders etc in RP -- which I admit I don't read because I don't get the difference between them and FF's, Prae & myself in FF, etc.). That is great for the new guys, but the veterans should have made more effort to continue the dream even after the move woke us up.

==end rant==

[redeyes15]

So, you guys hate here that much?

[Yoshimitsu27]

Yes. We do.

[RLRL]

www.pokeschool.com/forum

see what we used to be like... then make a decision wether we are good here or not...

[b-ondablock]

damn.....it looks like home but what do i know???

[praetoritevong]

Home is where the spirit lives. True not only for this, but in many situations in life, too. It ain't here.

[Bullados]

heh, at least I have the last official post in the old TCG forums. That's something for me...

Dang, that looks impressive. Why not open BOTH places up for posting? See what happens after a month or two? Either that, or somehow merge the two forums. I was never really against any sort of move, provided that the topics and posts were moved along with the site, which they weren't. It's because of that, and not because of the move, that the site has suffered so much...

[Salamence-trainer221]

heh, at least I have the last official post in the old TCG forums. That's something for me...

Hate to bring you down, but actually I do.

"with the last post on 01/17/2005 9:39:48PM by: Salamence-trainer221."

[ZAKtheGeek]

He said TCG. In decks, specifically.

I got the last post in questions and strategy. Wee!

[Prof. Cinders]

I got the last post in FF... Heh, and look how many times I've rated/posted my own stories recently. None! What a surprise. I'd love to rate stories again, but the only stories that catch my interest are limited here, and rather more expansive on other sites (for example, Hitleribi). I'd prefer that to be the other way round. Plus I'm going to start a fanfic of my own soon enough, and I would like more than one reviewer. I can remember my first fanfic, and I got so much criticism I abandoned it and started a new one (which was miles better). I think I got one person back into journey FFs as well. ^_^ I accomplished so much on the old boards, as did hundreds of others, and that all stopped with the move. If we accomplished anything, I'd be happy. The only thing that's really made me happy here is my lovely shiny award. So, if I see a few more accomplishments here, then I'd gladly stay. People would be happier, there'd be a better atosphere, we'd attract at least 10 guests an hour (instead of feeding off the other sub boards on tcgplayer) like we did on the old boards.

But still, I say, let's open up the other boards for 2 days. I'd post the first chapter to my FF faster, RP more, maybe even make my own threads for once. I'd most certainly post my pics, which have only been seen by members of Charms, and the good people on my msn list. So yeah, I'd be encouraged to do more. Here, I can't be bothered for much longer. If the boards never get opened, then, well, maybe I'll start being more active anyway. Meh. 'Til I can be bothered to reply next.

[UltraCow]

The boards should be opened. For 48 hours at the least. I could spend hours just going through the topics and laughing about how we all used to be before we all old and grumpy because of this change. And it is true, that forum was and still is our home.

[RLRL]

Just like to say that i beat you all for being the last post in the largest active topic on the whole entire board "The Guy Above You ~resurrection~" Muahahaha!

[praetoritevong]

Yeah, and I could spend hours yelling the **** outta you at all those topics too, UC. But, for once, I agree with you. People look back, people see how stupid or how funny we used to be... It's like we'd be a community, a true community, not this rubbish here, again. Who knows... And that last post business is not helping at all.

[RLRL]

True... the last post thing is just our own ways of saying how we contributed to the old site... seriously, look at my old movesets... now i practically run the joint as far as movesets are concerned (altho abhorsen and stonewall help alot too!)

we've changed as a community.. we're a tighter community than before... its safe to say, we all look out for eachother on here now, but we've always been like that, so thats not much of an improvement..

I think its safe to say... Chedy will never see this topic... He doesn't care that hes messed up our site... he doesn't care about the friendships he's destroyed... and he doesn't care about how much he has kiled us....

[kimishiro]

I've never been flamed before, so I'm going to provoke your spirits with my pessimstic outlook on reality.

The old forums are gone.. They will never be back.
Be thankful that these forums aren't revoked from you.

If it was me, I would take down the pokemon forums just for the sake of earning a little bit of respect.

Yeah, why don't you guys just whine about it, "You suck! Give me my forum back!"

It isn't going to do any good. Chedy, or whatever his name is, can't appease everyone, and in his opinion, the transition meant : "Hey, why have them all by themselves? I can send this baby to the nursery and they can all interact and play together"


As I recall, pokeschool forums was drowning anyways. Instead of stepping on it's head, he pulled it to the shallow end.

Is it his fault that we lack the ability to help ourselves?

Pokemon is dying anyways. As with all things created, there will come a time for it to end. You are a dying breed, and there is nothing you can do to stop that.

Pokemon may bring memories to you, and the new games may spark what fun you used to have and innovate you to play them. But all in all, it will only attract children.

They have no interest in the forums... and yeah I said it, children. Its a game. It was for kids... you were a kid, but it is time to grow up.


More and more people will leave this behind them, and those that stick it out, will have to deal with this.

So complain all you want, but it will only get worse from here on out.

[b-ondablock]

why dont you make up your own pokemon site??

[Abhorsen]

Pokemon is dying anyways.

You really think so? I dont. When D/P is released, pokemon will pick up more than it is now but it's far from dead.

I've posted this somewhere b4 I think but i'm posting it again to prove my point.



So Those Guys are STILL Saying Pokemon is Dead? - Well let's just smack them so silly that they wet their pants.

NPD Group: Top Selling Games in 2005
1. Madden NFL 06 (PS2)
2. Pokemon Emerald (GBA)
3. Gran Turismo 4 (PS2)
4. Madden NFL 06 (Xbox)
5. NCAA Footbal 06 (PS2)
6. Star Wars: Battlefront II (PS2)
7. MVP Baseball 2005 (PS2)
8. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (PS2)
9. NBA Live 06 (PS2)
10. LEGO Star Wars (PS2)

Not only was the Anime the #1 rated show on Saturday mornings for Kids' WB, but now Emerald has shown the popularity of the Pokemon games in the United States. Ruby and Sapphire were #1 in 2003, and now it's predecessor, a REMAKE, is #2. Pokemon certainly is thriving. Now all we need are some statistics on the trading card game.




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So Pokemon is Dead, Huh?

Usually when people say Pokemon is dead, they refer to the Anime. Of course, we alllll know that is not true, because if it were, then we would not be here. Pokemon may be out of its "fad" stage, but the people who are leftover are the true fans, and there are a LOT of them, so how can something be dead when many, many people are still into it? Well, on December 5th, Kids' WB's ratings were released, and it showed that Pokemon is not only going strong, but that it is on the top of the top! I have summarized the ratings report below:

• Kids' WB is the #1 most watched programming on Saturday mornings in the categories of kids 6-11, boys 2-11, boys 6-11, tweens 9-14, and male tweens 9-14.
• Pokemon is the #1 most watched show on Kids' WB (and thus on Saturday mornings) in kids 6-11, boys 2-11, and boys 6-11.
• It comes in second place on Kids' WB in the categories of kids 2-11, tweens 9-14, and male tweens 9-14.

Now we can all (or maybe just me) shove this report into people's faces when they say Pokemon is dead




I thought the anime was dead, but the stats show otherwise. Emerald is also going well beating all those PS2 games, the number 2 game is something not to be passed as being 'dead'

[praetoritevong]

Bondablock, say something useful, after you've thought about it, or shut the hell up.

I've never been flamed before, so I'm going to provoke your spirits with my pessimstic outlook on reality.

The old forums are gone.. They will never be back.
Be thankful that these forums aren't revoked from you.

If it was me, I would take down the pokemon forums just for the sake of earning a little bit of respect.

Respect? What respect do you get from destruction Kimi? What the hell is that, that ain't respect. That's power-hungry, maybe. It shows no understanding of people whatsoever; unlike you. It shows misguidedness, arrogance and overweening haughtiness. It's defeatist. It's like I said to you before, doing what you wanted to do and makin' no apologies to no-one, but it sure as hell ain't respect.

Do you really believe we would respect you? Do you believe I would respect you? I'm respected in story writing. It's a thing I'm proud of. Do you think I got that respect by ripping apart fanfics, which I do often? Not originally. The original reason people respect my judgement, respect my reviews, and respect my opinions on stories so much is because I've shown that I can write them, not because I've shown I can make them seem completely worthless pieces of crap. I can create them, not destroy them. I can create them and immerse myself in them and the world of writing, instead of sitting back and destroying something.

And you can sure as hell bet they have no plans to revoke this place. Think about it. Probably one of, if not the biggest, the main reasons to bring Pokéschool to this place was so that it could be part of the TCGPlayer forums. Not the Pokéschool forums. Assimilation, not dissipation. For you to extrapolate somehow the idea of taking away the forums is senseless and unlike you.

Yeah, why don't you guys just whine about it, "You suck! Give me my forum back!"

It isn't going to do any good. Chedy, or whatever his name is, can't appease everyone, and in his opinion, the transition meant : "Hey, why have them all by themselves? I can send this baby to the nursery and they can all interact and play together"

See the thing is, Chedy isn't appeasing anyone but himself and maybe the staff of TCGPlayer, whoever the hell wants us to be part of this name. Because as a whole, we sure don't. Obviously Chedy isn't listening to us. That much is obvious. Shout, or shout louder. If we don't say anything though, do you think that will help? Even with the attitude of your former post, I don't think you'd believe that. They're the two options, though. Shout louder, or shut the **** up. One has little chance, one has no chance. Try your attitude if your boss lessened your pay and increased work hours. "Oh well, I don't want to seem like I'm whining. I can live with it."

As I recall, pokeschool forums was drowning anyways. Instead of stepping on it's head, he pulled it to the shallow end.

Yes, they were drowning. But what is your idea of help? You think this move in some small way kept us alive? Look at the topic that everyone posted in when we first got here. It was only because of that that we even got concessions to start off with. How many members posted in that? A dozen, 2 dozen? How many posters did we have before that, who actually came every once in a while at least, to post? A ****load more than that, I'll tell ya. How many have we gained from it? redeyes, and magei and his three other friends. Five. That's called helping, is it? That's as helpful as this is, Kimi. Maybe they didn't step on our heads. That would require physically doing something. Instead, they can push buttons on a computer.

Is it his fault that we lack the ability to help ourselves?

How hyprocritical and unlike you. First you suggest we stop telling Chedy about out problems - or at least trying to - the only way we have any chance of getting noticed at all. Now you're suggesting that we can't help ourselves by doing what you're suggesting. Interesting theory. Care to test it out? Don't ask your boss for higher wages if he lowers them. Instead, shut the hell up and then blame yourself. Obviously, you couldn't help yourself either, by your reasoning. Hence it's all your fault.

What you don't seem to be getting is that we're doing everything we can to try and lobby Chedy. Unfortunately, there's a heirachy, and Chedy can do just about whatever he wants with these forums. If we had the power to move our forums back, we would. We don't. Does that mean we can't help ourselves? In this case, in this scenario, in this task, yes. Does it mean we can't do something to try and get help? No. Does it mean it's our fault we can't move our forums back? Yes, by your reasoning.

Pokemon is dying anyways. As with all things created, there will come a time for it to end. You are a dying breed, and there is nothing you can do to stop that.

Well Abhorsen just kicked that over easily. Do some research. You're not persuasive when you have no clue what you're talking about. Again, unlike you.

Pokemon may bring memories to you, and the new games may spark what fun you used to have and innovate you to play them. But all in all, it will only attract children.

Oh yes, I see that's completely obvious by the average age here. Another experiment Kimi. Post a topic asking ages. Or, check the ages of the most active members. We aren't 4 or 5 year olds.

They have no interest in the forums... and yeah I said it, children. Its a game. It was for kids... you were a kid, but it is time to grow up.

More and more people will leave this behind them, and those that stick it out, will have to deal with this.

Same as above. I mean, you can look at Serebii.net and you can instantly tell they have no interest whatsoever in forums. It's a game. It's also a hell of a lot more in its anime and TCG. Pokegym would prove as much, for example. From the ages of members of such boards, it's quite obvious your point is completely invalid. You say you were prepared for flaming. No need to insult us instead. Kimishiro, you've proved one thing in my book. You can seem as grown up as you want. It's only in times of hardship and need that people see your true age. Your entire argument is factless, flawed, and based on assumptions, and for the most part invalid, arrogant and hypocritical.

So complain all you want, but it will only get worse from here on out.

Maybe it will only get worse. Maybe it'll be so, Kimi. We're just doing what we feel is right. Few people get something from staying quiet. If you want to try, be my guest. But do it away from here, away from childishly arrogant, haughty, foundation-less commands.

Stop telling us to grow up. Tell yourself that, first.

[Bullados]

Just to poke another hole into that whole "Pokemon is dying" thing, focusing on the TCG this time...

Pokemon US Nationals, held at Origins (a relatively useless convention these days), had 400 participants exactly.

Pokemon Worlds GRINDER, the tournament held as a last chance qualifier in order to get into Worlds, had 256 participants in the 15+ age group. I can only assume that the total number of people in the tournament exceeded 400.

Pokemon Worlds 2005 had almost 400 invites and trips, with just as many participants.

To put that into perspective, Worlds 2002 (the only Worlds held under WOTC) had about 100 active participants. Worlds 2004 had about double that.

On top of the sales of a video game during 2005 when the game was released worldwide in SEPTEMBER 2004, and the single most popular Saturday morning kids TV show. I think that every single one of the Pokemon RPG games for a GB system was #1 in overall sales for all consoles for some portion of its history.

Pokemon is the most alive "dead" pastime that I have ever seen...

[Baboon]

Ok. I don't know what the hell's been going on here, but it's not good. I'm just going to do us all a favor and lock it.