Revolution Controler Revealed

[Blaziking]

Yep, the controler has been revealed! Check it out: http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=6513

So, what do you think. I think it's excelent and it will bring up plenty of new gameplay opportunities. It also looks awesome.

[Yoshimitsu27]

I think it's a good design too. Hooking up the analog stick like that let's you have more freedom in games. But does it have any news on the motion sensor? Apparently, there's gonna be a motion sensor in the controller.

[Pikachu]

"detects movement and tilting."

*cough*

I don't like it, it looks pretty but it only has 3 damn buttons.

[RLRL]

I think its kinda nice... but it will take alot of getting used to...

Thankfully old games can use the GC controller which personally I like alot...

[ZAKtheGeek]

There are 4 buttons. Note the B on the back.

Also, it's not the final design, so there could be more buttons. Remember also that since you can actually move it to control movement, the d-pad could potentially be used for action buttons as well.

[Salamence-trainer221]

Ugh...you can't be serious.....

I really hate the idea of a romote controller....I'd like to have something that could fit in both of my hands...

Errrg...*hates it*

[ZAKtheGeek]

You hate the idea of a remote contrller? Does that you that you for some reason prefer having wires tether you?

[Pikachu]

Thanks jeeba this isn't the final design. I really do like the way it looks though I just wonder how well it would actually work.

[Nemesis]

That remotes not the only part of the controller, you can use an anology stick, and other attachments in conjunction with the remote. Also note the remotes design, turn it sideways, and you have a NES controller, for those retro games.

[Yoshimitsu27]

"detects movement and tilting."

*cough*

I don't like it, it looks pretty but it only has 3 damn buttons.

Don't forget the trigger buttons on the analog stick.

And yeah, the whole thing about the Revolution controller is compatability with the old games. Makes things simpler ^^ I think

[Blaziking]

It does actually have quite a fair amount of buttons. Since it will have attachments and detects movement and tilting, they'll probably try and make that the main part of the controls, not the buttons so much.

And also... I think it is the final design.

[Shlllink]

OMG that is the ugliest and most repulsive thing I have ever seen! In my opinion the GCN controller is the ultimate controller ever created and I dont think something better can EVER be created, so naturally I dont think I would like the new one as much as it...but come on.....look at it.

All it has are the A and B buttons, and possibly that one on the analog. It has no X, Y or Z or C stick. (I know the C stick is overall useless, but still it gave people more options).

You couldn't possibly play Super Smash Brothers Melee with that thing, or many other GCN games. I'm worried that newer games will become too simplistic because of that thing. Its going to be hard or annoying to add more moves into the new smash brothers when you have less buttons to choose from. I'm glad you'll be able to still use the Game Cube controller on this system.

On the other hand, it is very interesting and innovative, which is what nintendo is know for. Although I cant see it now, I'm sure Nintendo will wind up having it work out amazingly and I will have to eat every word I typed here....

But that thing still is an eye sore.....

[Gibby]

There is not that much I can say based on the movie and the screenshots I have seen so far. While it looks innovative, it does look like it has its downfalls. For some of us, the motion sensors are not going to be that big of a deal, but for others, it will be something to get use too.

I personally do not like the way it was designed. The remote feel of it does not appeal to me, and having a wire connect the joystick to the remote just limited the movement of both of your hands (if you have long arms that is).

But as I said before, it is innovative. It is something no one had attempted before, and something I will have to check out further to get a better understanding if it. The concept if a good one, but if there is just the slightest problem with it, it will create a spiral downfall that will not allow it to come back up.

[RLRL]

It has X and Y buttons lower down the controller Shlllink, again its a prototype might be a different thing in the long run, personally i hope it will be different, a remote like that will get alot of getting used to.... And don't forget, you can still use your GC pads for older games, c'mon playing SSBM without the C stick and moving up and down the pad for x and y would be bloody hard to do!

[ZAKtheGeek]

It's weird how people say a remote will take getting used to.

What, you people have never held a remote in your hands before?

[Yoshimitsu27]

Hey, it beats the PS3's boomerang design. But I suppose the PS3's controller does have its usefullness. If I throw it at someone, at least I know it'll come back.

[RLRL]

Ever played games with a tv remote... i have once for the Sky games that i was playing, it was a very wierd sensation, also, its using only one hand, meaning the other wil be empty unless ure using the analogue stick... will be very strange... and well yeah at least the playstation people have realised that their pad wasn't perfect at last...

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Eurogamer: How is the controller going to work with games that aren't designed specifically for the Revolution - multi-platform titles and so on?

Jim Merrick: We're producing a classic-style expansion controller, based on traditional designs like the Gamecube controller. It's like a shell with a hole in the top into which you slot the freehand-style controller, and then you can play third-party ported games, and retro Nintendo games you've downloaded.

Hmmm.... any thoughts

[Salamence-trainer221]

That makes me feel a bajillion times better...I've grown to like the idea quite a lot now after reading many articles about it on IGN....

I'm still a little skeptical about it though...oh well...

[ZAKtheGeek]

There are very, very few people that didn't think WTF?!? (or worse...) when they first saw this. Natural reaction, really.

[Linkachu]

I didn't. I just thought "They've done it again!" ^__^

If anyone has read my comments to this on Pokecharms you'll know I think it's great. Yeah, it'll take some getting used to, but even GCN's controller over N64's did. I doubt Nintendo would've created a one-handed controller if they didn't feel it'd work just as they wanted it too. People complained about DS' touch-screen initially too afterall...

I'm just gald Nintendo stuck to their guns. They said they'd give us something new and they delivered it. Now I can't wait to get my hands on the thing and try it out for myself.

[RLRL]

If you think about it, the expansion controller may not be a single entity, I can personally see nintendo making a gun which also has the controller slot in somehow, again, this is nintendo, they might even make a touchpad that the remote control plugs into, then make a new variant on mario paint!

[Lugiasian]

The new controller's so....

Eurgh. Seriously. I refuse to play with those nunchucks. Play with a normal GC-style controller, fine with me. Play with a remote control? Not fine. Bleh... Thank goodness this isn't the final design....

[Linkachu]

Who says it's not the final design? There will be tweaks and add-ons, but I can't see the one-piece controller itself changing THAT radically. Face it, the one-hand controller is here to stay :P

[Bullados]

I love the idea of using motion sensors in video games other than FPS's. I also think that this new controller will make Nintendo the single leader in FPS gaming, considering that it's already essentially a phaser. Cross-platform games will have to adjust somewhat due to the motion sensoring, but they can manage, especially with the traditional controller add-on that Nintendo is promising (even though we don't know what that will look like). Also, for those complaining about buttons, like somebody already said, the D-pad can also be used for 4 more buttons in non-FPS play (FPS it'd be used to move your character, while the motion sensor would detect tilt and pan).

I love the idea, especially with the traditional add-on, but I'm worried about third party support, traditionally Nintendo's weakest point on all their systems. Hopefully, this new system will replace the Xbox as the premier FPS system, causing Xbox to die a long and very painful death (also partially due to an expected PS2 price drop for the holidays). I'm fine with Sony taking the "adult" gaming, just as long as Xbox is gone and Nintendo stays. I wonder how RPGs will work with this thing, or platformers...

[Pikachu]

It's the lack of "adult games" that's killing Nintendo, they need to wake up to the fact that people buy those types of games. They are hugely popular and something that Nintendo should jump on and quick.

[Blaziking]

You're totaly right Pikachu. Sometimes Nintendo makes the stupidest mistakes. Like, AGAIN their console is being released last. The idiots! That's one of the reasons the GC is 3rd in this generations war. Also, where the HELL has Eternal Darkness dissapeared to? A franchise that would surely help them on the Revolution and it's just gone! WE would run the company better than they do...

[redeyes15]

The new controller's so....

Eurgh. Seriously. I refuse to play with those nunchucks. Play with a normal GC-style controller, fine with me. Play with a remote control? Not fine. Bleh... Thank goodness this isn't the final design....

yea, thats how i felt at first. like everyone else, its gunna take some getting used to, and i dont see how well it will be to play super smash bros on it, but hey, nintendo will get it done. They are 3rd, but they are great too.

[LazyMan]

I think there is an adapter where you can use the old clickers.

[redeyes15]

I think there is an adapter where you can use the old clickers.

hey there! yea, i heard that might happen, but can someone give us some info to prove it or something?

[Yoshimitsu27]

You're totaly right Pikachu. Sometimes Nintendo makes the stupidest mistakes. Like, AGAIN their console is being released last. The idiots!

Ahem.

That gives them more time to adapt the console and make it betterer.

[Abhorsen]

Well Nintendo wouldnt have made the controller that way if SSBM couldnt be played on it.

Im not sure if anyone here knows yet of the Shell controller??? There is no official design as of yet but it will make Smash Bros and other games much easier to play and can be used instead of the "Remote" entirely. The picture is only a mock version but should look very similar to the pic there. This is what got more of my friends onto the Revolution and hopefully more of you guys :)

Pic and info are here (scroll down the page): http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651559p1.html

[Blaziking]

Ahem.

That gives them more time to adapt the console and make it betterer.


Yeah, maybe, but why would somebody wait another 7 or so months for the Revolution when they can get XBox 360 straight away! That's how a lot of people think.

It's good that Nintendo is making this add-on. I would use the remote without the shell, but it's nice that we can choose.

[Linkachu]

This isn't going to be another GCN, though. Revolution's new features alone will keep/get people interested in it, late release or no late release. PS3 is the one I'd be more worried about, although with the mounds of Sony-fanboys out there it probably doesn't have much to worry about. Guess we'll see, eh?

And I'd just like the say... Why does Nintendo need to focus on these "mature" games? They do their own thing - the thing they're good at - while other companies make those styles of titles. It's not like all the so-called "mature" X-Box and Playstation 2 titles are first party. Heck, those two consoles barely have any first-party titles at all. All of Nintendo's first-party games sell fairly well, so you can't really say they're being "killed" in that sense. What you should really be attacking is Nintendo's lack of 3rd party support, but that's a whole different story.

[Salamence-trainer221]

I personally, don't think that 360 is going to do all that well, just because of that terrifying price. The last I heard, the bundle pack is going to be $500!! $500!?!?! Only die-hard fans are going to pay that price; or someone who is dieing for a next-gen console. The 360 might do well in Japan though. They dropped that price about $50 since X-Box did so horribly in Japan, and they made the system shinier and sleeker, just like Japan loves. :-P

Who knows though, I might be asking for one around Christmas..but still..that price blows..

[Abhorsen]

I heard PS3 is gonna be sold at an unbelieveable price as well. IMO, the amount of things Sony and MS put into their consoles, which puts up the prices by hundreds of dollars, will be the main reason for their downfall in the future as no-one could afford them in the end. I can see consoles from Sony and MS costing about $1000 each in the next 10-15 years (if they are still around).

I remember here (in Australia) Xbox dropped it's price from about $500 down to about $300-$250 about 3 weeks after its release since no-one bought it cause of the price. It might have been more but i cant remember that long ago. PS2 only sold well as it had no competition at the time, that is the ONLY reason why Sony is popular with gamers.

It's quite sad really, that not many people buy Nintendo things due to Gamecube being released last and doing poorly in the competition with the already released consoles. That gave alot of people the impression that Nintendo isnt worth buying anymore. And I absolutely hate those Sony-fanboys (like my idiot brother and father) who pay out Nintendo cause they only create "baby games"... :mad: Nintendo try to be different atleast. I see the same games on PS2, Xbox and PC... wow look at the originality. I also cannot see a baby or little kid playing Metroid Prime or Resident Evil 4 due to the violence and cause to Resident Evil 4 is doing so well on GC, Sony went and got them to make a PS2 version with extra stuff! That is just plain theft. Sony really piss me off cause they have nothing better to make, so they steal everything off other companies (Analong Stick anyone? And stolen from Nintendo)

I think Nintendo will go alot better in the next generation of consoles, even though there are ALOT of doubting people about the controller, Nintendo will figure out more things to get more buyers. The shell controller will boost sales heaps so people dont have to use the 'Remote' directly but play in a classic style of gaming with a normal controller.

[Blaziking]

I sure hope Nintendo will do a lot better in the next generation of consoles. And yeah, Sony stole everything from Nintendo(Rumble Pack, four players on one system, even two players on one system...) so how can you know that Sony is not making at this very moment a controler like the Revolution has. I wouldn't be in the least bit suprised...

I like "baby games" much more than "mature games" too, but I say that Ninty should make more adult games because of themselves! So their systems would sell better! 10 year old kids these days don't want to play kiddy games because they think they are to old for that.

Also Abhorsen, as far as I know Resident Evil 4 is selling awfully on the GC. I think I saw it on the internet somewhere, it took 6 months to sell half a million copies. I know that Eternal Darkness, Metroid Prime 2 and Metal Gear Solid sold really badly. It's really weird that MP2 wasn't a best seller, or even close.

[Pikachu]

I wish that being different was enough but if Nintendo don't look for a wider audience they will fail. They've been around since the beginning (I consider the original Sega and the original Ninty as the first real consoles. Sure we had Atari etc but modern gaming for me truly started with Nintendo and Sega.) I can't see them going the distance with the other major console developers without bringing in a wider array of games, they need to appeal to all ages and types of people. They do appeal to all ages in a lot of ways but it's not quite on the same level as Sony and Microsoft.

PS. The Sony pad is shaped like a boomerang. Also, how come nobody has pointed out that Microsoft are a bunch of thieving bastards? Windows, Dos, Java.....all stolen. Meh, I guess it isn't really to do with the topic.

[Abhorsen]

Also Abhorsen, as far as I know Resident Evil 4 is selling awfully on the GC.

Really? I read somewhere, it was either the sunday paper or the net somewhere that RE4 was selling quite good on GC but different places have different sources.

Im was suprised about MP2 not selling quite well. I really enjoyed the 1st Metroid Prime, yet Echoes wasnt as challenging and was quite predictable in the end. Dark Samus was an easy enemy once u got used to her while the final boss in the 1st Prime was quite difficult and enjoyable to verse.

"Baby" games is the wrong word for it, i shouldnt have put that, it is just what some Sony fanboys i know call them wen i piss them off. I prefer games which are enjoyable. I dont care which age group they were targeted at, as long as it provides a great experience. I admit that i still play my Pokemon gba games and i have colosseum on GC and am planning to get XD wen it comes out too. I hav or had almost all the Mario sport games like Golf (which was boring unfortunately), Double Dash (still great fun) and Power Tennis (I love this game). Even though some of them are unbalanced as hell, they still give me laughs and they make me wanta play them more. Go Go Petey Piranha in Power Tennis :p

Nintendo really do need to provide alot more games which appeal to the adult audience. Even though i dread to admit it but Sony have done that and that's why they have more fans. Games like GTA, more EA sport games and numerous car racing games have sold Sony to the adult community as really, that's all 30 year old guys want. I dont see half as many female players on consoles but they are out there. Hopefully the result on the GC wont affect the selling of the Revolution since that can have almost endless possiblilities with the normal controller and the Remote. I cant wait till next year to buy it! :D

[Linkachu]

I sure hope Nintendo will do a lot better in the next generation of consoles. And yeah, Sony stole everything from Nintendo(Rumble Pack, four players on one system, even two players on one system...) so how can you know that Sony is not making at this very moment a controler like the Revolution has. I wouldn't be in the least bit suprised...

I like "baby games" much more than "mature games" too, but I say that Ninty should make more adult games because of themselves! So their systems would sell better! 10 year old kids these days don't want to play kiddy games because they think they are to old for that.

Also Abhorsen, as far as I know Resident Evil 4 is selling awfully on the GC. I think I saw it on the internet somewhere, it took 6 months to sell half a million copies. I know that Eternal Darkness, Metroid Prime 2 and Metal Gear Solid sold really badly. It's really weird that MP2 wasn't a best seller, or even close.


Don't make me have this argument again. I refuse to get into a lengthy debate on this ridiculous claim that a game aimed at ALL age groups is "baby". Is Zelda a baby game? Is Mario? Is Metriod? Just which games exactly are you talking about here? The only people who call games like that "kiddy" are bad gamers or idiots. I'm not saying any of you are idiots, but honestly... Define "kiddy" for me, because I'd love to know how something rated "E" is meant only for kids which IMO is the definition of kiddy (go fig).

Oh, and about Sony stealing everything from Nintendo... Clickie clicke (http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/8810/sonypngd4il9wy.png) ^^

They do appeal to all ages in a lot of ways but it's not quite on the same level as Sony and Microsoft

Again, that's due to 3rd-party support. Nintendo is just ONE company - a large one, yes, but still a company on its own. Why do people expect them to be gods? They can't make everything.
If someone wants to delve into the reasoning of why 3rd party games don't sell on Nintendo's latest consoles be my guest. It might help solve some of this confusion...

"Baby" games is the wrong word for it, i shouldnt have put that, it is just what some Sony fanboys i know call them wen i piss them off.

As I said, idiots. Makes me want to post the article I read defining the term "fanboy" verses someone who's a fan... Yes. There's a very distinct difference, and being a fanboy is never a good thing. It doesn't show loyalty to a company; it shows ignorance as a gamer.

Anyways ... This "Nintendo is kiddy" debate has happened far too much. Am I the only one who's sick and tired of it? And if anyone even bothers to bring DS vs PSP into this, praising PSP for its "greatness", I will personally flame them -.-

[Abhorsen]

Im sick of the "Nintendo is kiddy" debate as well since I have to argue ALOT with friends and family who are ignorant people saying how bad Nintendo is, that really makes me sad. I thought everyone in the world had some sort of understanding of everything but i have lost faith in people for their attitude towards Nintendo.

I will also flame people who praise PSP since it isnt so great, just a waste of money i think.

Edit: THAT IS THE FUNNIEST PICTURE I HAVE SEEN. It is so true though which makes Sony look terrible. I bet Sony's next console will have something stolen from the Revolution's controller. Im keeping that picture in my favourites :p

[Blaziking]

Guys, you didn't really understand me. I am with Nintendo the whole time! I love Nintendo and their games. And it's not ME who says these games(Mario, Pikmin, Wind Waker...) are "baby games", it's everyone in the world who is not a Nintendo fan! They piss me off to! One of my good friends has an XBox and the other has a PS2. I feel like killing them when they bash Nintendo! They both have a lot of fun playing Mario Sunshine and other such games when they come, but the're total idiots and continue saying how Ninty is crap because it makes "baby games"! It's not me who thinks E rated games are for five year olds! It's the other gamers that Nintendo should try and get onto their side so they dominate the market once again! I wish only the best for Nintendo and that is why I say that they should have more T and even M rated games.

That picture is awesome! I too am saving it into my favorites. Did you make it Linkachu, or did you find it on the net?

[RLRL]

That picture is actually brilliant...

What we have to remember is, gaming is a business, much like sport is nowadays, basically, people in this world are weasels, with gaming becoming a business it inevtably becomes a drawn out process with every company trying to make money, which in the end is what it all comes down to, Money.

I personally own a PS2 and a Gamecube, I find that some games on the PS2 are enjoyable enough, but really since I bought my Gamecube I have spent much more time in comparison playing on it, as I find that the games are more enjoyable and appeal to me more. To be frank, my PS2 pretty much just acts as a DVD player now.

The Xbox 360 and PS3 will do incredibly well, there is no doubt about that fact, the PSP has also done well unfortunately... Really we're just waiting to see if Nintendo live up to expectations, and to be frank, we know they will do well, however it may not be enough as the market is changing at such an alarming rate. Lets just all hope that the Xbox burns in hell... Nintendo can easily compete with Sony, however Microsoft are still a problem...

[Linkachu]

Guys, you didn't really understand me. I am with Nintendo the whole time! I love Nintendo and their games. And it's not ME who says these games(Mario, Pikmin, Wind Waker...) are "baby games", it's everyone in the world who is not a Nintendo fan! They piss me off to! One of my good friends has an XBox and the other has a PS2. I feel like killing them when they bash Nintendo! They both have a lot of fun playing Mario Sunshine and other such games when they come, but the're total idiots and continue saying how Ninty is crap because it makes "baby games"! It's not me who thinks E rated games are for five year olds! It's the other gamers that Nintendo should try and get onto their side so they dominate the market once again! I wish only the best for Nintendo and that is why I say that they should have more T and even M rated games.

Sorry for going cynical on ya, Blaziken. Didn't realize you were just quoting others. Like I said, though, that argument has been done so much just seeing it grinds my nerves. People like that are just being ignorant, but that's human nature for you. Do I only own Nintendo consoles/hand helds? No. Are all my favourite games Nintendo-made? Definitely not. I try to experience games myself before bashing them - fanboys don't, which is why their opinions to me mean zilch. If they're not going to give intelligent arguments they're not worth the time - that goes for ALL fanboys/girls of anything.

Anyways, I'm far past wanting Nintendo to dominate really and now more see it as "As long as they make the games I like, who cares what idiots think?" Until they're having serious financial issues like Sega was - which is not going to happen in the next year or two - then I'd never want them to change. They've sold out enough. It's nice that gaming has become so main stream but it's pretty much a plague, too. Gaming just isn't what it used to be, but that's another story that I'd rather not get into here...

What Nintendo is currently trying to do is draw in people who aren't already gamers. We've already seen it with games like Nintendogs - the fastest selling new franchise in its first week of all time - and I bet we'll be seeing it with other things, too. So yeah... All of these idiot fanboys aren't Nintendo's target at all - it's everyone else they're after. Whether Revolution will actually do what it's meant to do has yet to be seen. At least unlike Sony, Nintendo takes risks to bring innovation to gaming. In reality they've done just as many evil things as the other companies (they're definitely not perfect) but at least they still try to give us something "new" instead of taking the easy road. Above all else I respect them for that.

That picture is awesome! I too am saving it into my favorites. Did you make it Linkachu, or did you find it on the net?

Nah, I didn't make that picture, but I wish I had ^^ You can read the author's name on the left side.

the PSP has also done well unfortunately

Why'd you do that? :p

Figures do show that PSP as a multi-media hand held is selling good. Guess what's not selling? Its games. Compared to DS' game sales PSP is flopping as a gaming device, which is why many people have come to call it "a multi-media player that plays games". Sony has been pulling out lately on it too, cutting target shipment rates for 2006 and such. At this rate the only reason the thing will be selling is because it's a Sony product that plays movies/MP3s. If it doesn't start getting better games soon it's going to go downhill fast.

[Abhorsen]

okay, so figures do show that PSP as a multi-media hand held is selling good. Guess that's not selling? Its games. Compared to DS' game sales PSP is flopping as a gaming device, which is why many people have come to call it "a multi-media player that plays games". Sony has been pulling out lately on it too, cutting target shipment rates for 2006 and such. At this rate the only reason the thing will be selling is because it's a Sony product that plays movies/MP3s. If it doesn't start getting better games soon it's going to go downhill fast.

PSP is a flop IMO. At 1st i didnt see it doing so well, i got suprised by how many people having one at school yet they all had the same games which included some car racing game, tony hawk i think and some golf game. Sony has that same problem of remaking and remaking and remaking and remaking the same games, putting the same version on EVERY one of their consoles. I liked the 1st playstation cause it had some fun games on it, including Syphon Filter 1-3, Ape Escape, Spyro games (alot of games) and Crash Bandicoot 1-3. All those games flopped sequels out onto PS2 which were not as good as the originals. PSP has everything too expensive, PSP games here cost the same price as a normal console game ($99) while DS and GBA games cost half the price, maybe a bit more but that's it ($50-$70 at the most)

I really want the Revolution to do well but i think Sony and MS have already hypnotized far too many people with their big power levels and level of speed in the next gen consoles. Nintendo wont give up, they are one of the most successful companies in the world, creating games which will be remembered Forever, such as Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, Kirby games... What does Sony have to be remembered for? Stealing, unoriginality, the boomerang, just to name a few. MS will be remembered for... I dont care really... maybe trying to get in a competition with 2 already great companies and creating a monster of a box.

[ZAKtheGeek]

MS will be forever remembered for giving online console play the kick it needed.

The thing is, people want to feel older, more "mature." This is very true if you think about it. This is why many people are drawn to more "mature" games: they make them feel older, in a good way. Ironically, some of these games are in fact rather immature, with nothing but nudity and/or mindless violence. Needless to say, these are pretty crappy.

Which is why nintendo doesn't usually make them.

Viva la Revolution (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/ZAKtheGeek/VivalaRevolution.jpg).