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PipBoy

08-16-2012, 07:52 AM

APPROVED THREAD BY : Shadow Master

Madolche's are an archetype of Earth type monsters based on deserts/puns. They all share the ability to Return to the deck when they die by your opponent and cuts cards like Pot of Avarice etc

Royals (Fairy) :

Queen Madolche Tiaramisu
Rank 4 Earth 2200 ATK 2100 DEF
Effect : 2 Level (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Level) 4 "Madolche (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche)" monsters
Once per turn (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Turn): You can detach (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Detach) 1 Xyz Material (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Xyz_Material) from this card to target (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Target) up to 2 "Madolche (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche)" cards in your Graveyard (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard); shuffle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle) those targets into the Deck (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck), then shuffle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle) cards your opponent controls (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control) into the Deck (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck) up to the number of cards targeted.

- This card is their only XYZ and probably one of the strongest XYZ in my opinion and its only limited to this archetype unless there is some hybrid build going on. Anyways she's pretty easy to summon in this deck and her effect bypasses cards like Magatama or Starlight Road and allows you to recycle Madolche monsters/spells/traps in your graveyard.

Madolche Puddingcess
Lv 5 Earth 1000 ATK 1000 DEF
Effect :When this card you control (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control) is destroyed (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy) by your opponent's card (either by battle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroyed_by_battle) or by card effect (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect)) and sent (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Send) to your Graveyard (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard): Shuffle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle) this card into your Deck (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck). While you have no monsters (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Card) in your Graveyard, this card gains 800 ATK (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/ATK) and DEF (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/DEF). After damage calculation (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Damage_calculation), when this card battles an opponent's monster: You can target (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Target) 1 card your opponent controls (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control); destroy (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy) that target.

-I usually never normal summon her and she's not worth running at 3 but she's still good. She can battle any card and whether you win it or lose it you get to pop ANY card your opponent has. She also gains 800 atk 800 def when you have no monsters in the graveyard which makes it pretty nifty.

Servants (Warrior/Spellcaster) :

Madolche Chouxvalier
Lv 4 Earth 1700 ATK DEF 1300
Effect :When this card is destroyed (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy) by your opponent and sent (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Send) to the Graveyard (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard): Shuffle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle) it into your Deck (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck). Your opponent cannot target (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Target) other face-up (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-up) "Madolche (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche)" monsters (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Card) you control (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control) for attacks (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Attack), except "Madolche Chouxvalier".

-Don't really see too much use for this card..if anyone has a strat tell me.

Madolche Messengelato
Lv 4 Earth 1600 ATK 1000 DEF
Effect : When this card you control (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control) is destroyed (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy) by your opponent's card (either by battle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroyed_by_battle) or by effect (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect)) and sent (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Send) to your Graveyard (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard): Shuffle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle) this card into your Deck (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck). When this card is Special Summoned (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Summon), if you control (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control) a Beast (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Beast)-Type (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Type) "Madolche (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche)" monster (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster): You can add 1 "Madolche (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche)" Spell (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_Card)/Trap Card (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Trap_Card) from your Deck (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck) to your hand (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand).

-I like this card when special summoned you can search for ANY madolche spell/trap in your deck so its pretty darn good and means you don't need teraforming.

Madolche Butlerusk
Lv 4 Earth 1500 ATK 800 DEF
Effect : When this card you control (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control) is destroyed (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy) by your opponent's card (either by battle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroyed_by_battle) or by card effect (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect)) and sent (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Send) to your Graveyard (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard): Shuffle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle) this card into your Deck (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck). When this card is Normal Summoned (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Normal_Summon): You can add (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Add_a_card) 1 Field Spell Card (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Field_Spell_Card) from your Deck (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck) to your hand (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand). There must be another face-up (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-up) "Madolche (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche)" monster on the field (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Playing_Field) to activate (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Activate) and resolve (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Resolve) this effect (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect).

-Basically a teraforming when normal summoned I use one copy just incase I need my field spell out quickly and when I can't special summon Messengelato.

Madolche Margileine
Lv 4 Earth 1400 ATK 1200 DEF
Effect : When this card you control (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control) is destroyed (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy) by your opponent's card (either by battle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroyed_by_battle) or by effect (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect)) and sent (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Send) to your Graveyard (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard): Shuffle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle) this card into your Deck (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck). When this card is Normal (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Normal_Summon) or Flip Summoned (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Flip_Summon): You can add 1 "Madolche (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche)" monster (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Card) from your Deck to your hand (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand).

THIS CARD IS SO IMPORTANT TO ANY MADOLCHE VARIANT IMO. She allows you to search for ANY madolche monster in your deck and add it to your hand only when she's normal summoned.. but pair that with Ultimate Offering you can have 2 madolche queen tieramisu with other nifty cards and she can even search herself! THIS card just takes the cake.

Madolche Marmamaid
Lv 4 Earth 800 ATK 2000 DEF
Effect : When this card you control (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control) is destroyed (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy) by your opponent's card (either by battle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroyed_by_battle) or by effect (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect)) and sent (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Send) to your Graveyard (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard): Shuffle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle) this card into your Deck (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck). When this card is flipped (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Flip) face-up (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-up): You can target (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Target) 1 "Madolche (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche)" Spell (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_Card)/Trap Card (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Trap_Card) in your Graveyard; add that target to your hand (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand).
Becomes a pretty nice wall in the deck with Madolche Chateau out though I don't really get to use her effect all that often but it has its uses. I only run 1 copy so its warranted I suppose.

Pet (Beasts) :

Madolche Cruffsant
Lv 3 Earth 1500 ATK 1200 DEF
Effect : When this card you control (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control) is destroyed (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy) by your opponent's card (either by battle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroyed_by_battle) or by effect (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect)) and sent (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Send) to your Graveyard (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard): Shuffle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle) this card into your Deck (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck). Once per turn (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Turn): You can target (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Target) 1 other face-up (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-up) "Madolche (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche)" card you control (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control); Return that target to the hand (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand), and if you do, increase this card's Level (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Level) by 1 and ATK (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/ATK) by 300.

This card has pretty good stats for a lv 3 and has a pretty darn good effect too allowing you to bounce another Madolche monster to your hand to gain a level and 300 atk. Becomes 2000 with Chateau out not bad right? Your prime targets are Margileine and Mewfeuille.

Madolche Mewl-Feuille
Lv 3 Earth 500 ATK 300 DEF
Ok stats but its effect is even better special summon another Madolche monster in the hand when this card is normal summoned. Let's say you had Margileine you searched for either Messengelato or Puddingcess and added it to your hand. You normal this card special Messegelato bring a Madolche ticket or Chateau if you don't have one XYZ to Tiaramisu and bam your set up for plays. If you got Puddingcess to get rid of some obstacles she's there too.

Madolche Baaple
Lv 3 Earth 0 ATK 1800 DEF
Effect : When this card you control (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control) is destroyed (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy) by your opponent's card (either by battle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroyed_by_battle) or by card effect (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect)) and sent (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Send) to your Graveyard (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard): Shuffle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle) this card into your Deck (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck). When this card is Normal Summoned (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Normal_Summon): You can Special Summon (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Summon) 1 "Madolche (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche)" monster (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Card) from your hand (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand).

Becomes a pretty good wall and has a decent effect..good at locking certain beaters down.

Spells :

Madolche Chateau (Field Spell)
Effect : When this card is activated (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Activate): Shuffle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle) all "Madolche (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche)" monsters (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Card) in your Graveyard (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard) into the Deck (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck). All "Madolche" monsters on the field (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Playing_Field) gain 500 ATK (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/ATK) and DEF (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/DEF). If a monster(s) in your Graveyard would be returned to the Deck by the effect (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect) of a "Madolche" monster, you can add (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Add_a_card) it to your hand (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand) instead.

I think its necessary to run 3 in a deck unless you guys discover different variants its just godlike. It grants a pretty hefty 500 atk/def boost to all madolche monsters. Combined with Madolche ticket you can get +'s all over the board and reuse cards like Mewfeuille or Margileine when they are used for the effects of Tiaramisu or when they die to a desperate Dark Hole/torrential play.

Madolche Ticket (Continuous Spell)
Effect :When a "Madolche (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche)" card you control (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control) or in your Graveyard (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard) is returned (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Return) to your hand or Deck by a card effect (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect): Add 1 "Madolche" monster from your Deck to your hand. If you control a face-up (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-up) Fairy (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Fairy)-Type (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Type) "Madolche" monster, you can Special Summon (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Summon) it in face-up (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-up) Attack Position (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_Position) instead. The effect of "Madolche Ticket" can only be used once per turn.

Pretty good card allows you to get +s and increasing your hand or field presense if you have pudding or tiaramisu in play. 3 might be overkill though.

Traps :

Madolche Happy Fiesta (Trap Card)
Special Summon (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Summon) any number of "Madolche (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche)" monsters (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Card) from your hand (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand). During the End Phase (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/End_Phase), all monsters that were Special Summoned by this effect (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect) are shuffled (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle) into the Deck(s) (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck).
This card is soo goood as a trap and allows you to XYZ spam or w/e when they get added back to the hand with Chateau and when ticket adds a monster to your hand to. You can use effects like Messegelato when you activate this card. Pretty darn good trap.

Madolche Lesson (Trap Card)
Target (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Target) 1 "Madolche (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche)" monster (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Card) in your Graveyard (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard); Shuffle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle) that target into your Deck (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck), and if you do, all "Madolche" monsters you currently control (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control) gain 800 ATK (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/ATK) and DEF (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/DEF), then you can shuffle (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle) 1 other monster from your Graveyard into the Deck.

I like this card but I don't ALWAYS have madolche in my grave hardly ever and usually tiaramisu handles that. If you are synchroing I suggest using this card to recycle your tuner/madolche at the same time. The atk/def can be clutch when done right .

Madolche Tea Break (Counter Trap)
When a Spell (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_Card)/Trap card (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Trap_Card) is activated (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Activate), if you have no monsters (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Card) in your Graveyard (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard): Negate (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Negate) the activation, and if you do, return (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Return) it to the hand (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand), then if you control (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control) a face-up (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-up) "Madolche Puddingcess (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Madolche_Puddingcess)", you can destroy (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy) 1 card your opponent controls.

Their counter trap its ok and if you have puddingcess you get to pop a card which is SITUATIONAL but its still there. If you run this your probably being a d*** by making them waste their solemns lolol. Negates spells/traps

Madolche Waltz (Continuous Trap Card)
Opponent loses 300 LP when they battle with madolches..a meh card

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Recommended cards or synergistic cards will be put here :) if you got questions why these cards are good feel free to ask and also suggest cards too!

Compulsory Evacuation Device

So let the discussion begin share your builds and thoughts! This archetype is COMING very soon so prepare yourselves :)

exodiasezwhat

08-16-2012, 11:28 AM

So let the discussion begin share your builds and thoughts! This archetype is COMING very soon so prepare yourselves :)

Can you also paste in the card descriptions/effects in the first entry? This will help with people who are unfamiliar with these cards.

At the moment, there's not enough of the Madolche monsters to do the fast OTK type of deck strategy yet. I'm primarily thinking of Madolche Mewfeuille to Special Summon Madolche Messengelato and Madolche Puddingcess, coupled with Madolche Happy Festa.

My other gripe is that most of the Madolche monsters' effects involve them being Normal Summoned, which is a major disadvantage.

I think Madolche will be a very popular set to collect, just because they're so irresistibly cute, but I'm still scratching my head on how to combo them with non-Madolche cards to create a more aggressive deck strategy.

PipBoy

08-16-2012, 11:34 AM

Sure will do though what the limit a post? I don't wanna stretch it too long.

Yes there aren't enough Madolche monsters out of yet but they do have a fairly solid ground to work, just use stun cards to beat matchups like Zenmaity and dragons.

Normal summoning is a disadvantage I'll admit but I use Ultimate Offering, sure it can be MST'ed but the potential is there. If not you can use double summoning.

I think it will be popular cuz Konami just wrote an article about puddingcess but I think that people are gonna be more interested in the spellbook series. Or water since theres so many now. Hmm not sure about splashing or creating a hybrid strategy...as some of their effects require no monsters in the graveyard hmm its probably just puddingcess though. If you have an idea or prototype feel free to share and we can work on it together lol

K i added in effects and will spruce up the initial post as we go. Is there a way to sort of create a "Spoiler Alert" type of thing to clean it up and make it look nicer?

exodiasezwhat

08-20-2012, 12:23 PM

I guess at this point, without Abyss Rising cards, we're stuck with Puddingcess as the primary card to play. Has anyone found difficulty in pulling or trading for this card?

PipBoy

08-20-2012, 06:34 PM

I thought it doesn't come until the 28th? O_O....and yeah we are kinda stuck with it was a primary card. I'll post my decklist some time today or tomorrow when I have time.

ragda

08-20-2012, 10:49 PM

Xydan

08-21-2012, 08:25 AM

I remember someone at the sneak peek gave me advice on pitching away the Madolche Butler guy, all together because 3 Terraforming was way better. I haven't done much with this archetype but I will sooner or later.

exodiasezwhat

08-21-2012, 11:17 AM

PipBoy

08-21-2012, 04:51 PM

I got 2 from Sneak (both through trading, 1 ULT and 1 UR)! It'll be interesting to see what we can do with these cards for now. How do you guys think this should be played now that Ultimate Offering is Limited? Slow roll? Eatos? Should we run The Transmigration Prophecy and maybe Pot of Benevolence should monsters somehow hit the graveyard (non-Madolche ones)?
Hmm well someone on this website told me Eatos was inconsistent beater but it was never for me actually...but then again its just a beater but who knows. Pot of Benevolence is a great card imo I would probably run it now that I have room.

I remember someone at the sneak peek gave me advice on pitching away the Madolche Butler guy, all together because 3 Terraforming was way better. I haven't done much with this archetype but I will sooner or later.

Honestly you can just do without Butler..he ISNT necessary as he requires a normal summon. Also Messgelato if you choose to run him can search for your Field Spell too. I don't think 3 Terraforming is necessary as its overkill maybe 1-2. K I'm going to change my deck based on the next banlist so it will be delayed..

Also I was also thinking of getting rid of marmamaid from my deck she's not really that good because she's slow. I mean she has a good effect but just too slow lol thoughts?

Also thoughts on Relieve Monster? Seems interesting...also if you guys have any "recommended' cards to put please say some so I can add to the list!

Well here's my deck on DN nothing really special O_O I think this deck will be much better in abyss >.< Worth the wait I suppose.
1x Guardian Eatos
1x Madolche Butler
2x Madolche Cruffsant
3x Madolche Magileine
2x Madolche Messengelato
3x Madolche Mewl-Feuille
2x Madolche Puddingcess

3x Madolche Chateau
2x Madolche Ticket
1x Dark Hole
1x Heavy Storm
3x MST
1x Pot of Duality ( I really don't use this card all that often...?)
2x Pot of Benevolence
1x Monster Reborn

2x BTH
2x Compuslory Evacuation Device
2x Fiendish Chains
2x Madolche Happy Fiesta
1x Madolche Manners
1x Solemn Judgment
2x Solemn Warning
1x Ultimate Offering
1x Mirror Force

14x in each section (LOL) for a total of 42 cards..

ragda

08-21-2012, 09:22 PM

It's cool to see a post ABYR build, but I'd like to work on stuff we have for now.

Has anyone considered Demise of the Land as well as Terraforming? I mean, a teched copy should suffice as its sometimes tough to get the trigger AND drop Chateau safely/usefully.

loonatik

08-23-2012, 01:29 AM

I have been testing it out, it is hard to run without some of the other cards, the only cards really for the engine is magileine, mewl, and pudding, one reason I even run butler is because of more rank 4 because the others are not so good. The different cards in my build is that I do not use eatos, but I use 2 gold sarcs to search stuff out, then run 3 battle faders because they are removed from play anyways, so pudding can get to its full potential. But with only one Ultimate Offering and limited madolches, it has been hard to run. And i run 3 double summons.

PipBoy

09-01-2012, 01:23 PM

http://yugioh.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=2850 :P i completely forgot about stardust but i still might not want ot use it though..

Daaneskjold

09-02-2012, 08:37 AM

this is awesome =P madolches look good... i will start posting here once i get my hands in the deck

PipBoy

09-25-2012, 06:27 PM

Madolches won regionals interesting decklist :) Loving the tech of Drastic Drop Off he used very good card. Also noticed something here a while back and with this guy winning with his deck, has anyone built a deck without puddingcess because as of now that card is literally the ONLY monster in madolches that really rely on not having ANY monsters in the graveyard so I guess we can expand past that and possibily create something her e:P

ragda

09-25-2012, 07:54 PM

I think he ran 1 pudding, any one have a list to look at?

exodiasezwhat

09-27-2012, 05:13 AM

I think he ran 1 pudding, any one have a list to look at?

Do you mean this article? http://yugioh.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=2880

I recently just came back from Japan and got to see all the glorious Madolche monsters in Abyss Rising. They're so pretty.

In terms of new strategies, I think we're still up against a wall due to some missing monsters from Abyss Rising. I was thinking about maybe adopting a Macro Cosmos/Eatos build, but you're not really getting that much mileage out of the Madolche cards. If you were running purely the Warrior Madolche monsters, then maybe a combination of Reinforcement of the Army and Warrior Returning Alive can give your hand nice and full, while also taking full advantage of cards, such as The A. Forces and Solidarity/Burden of the Mighty. In that situation, piercing damage can be helpful since they can run over most defense position monsters if pumped up.

Batsmak

09-28-2012, 07:17 AM

Do you mean this article? http://yugioh.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=2880

I recently just came back from Japan and got to see all the glorious Madolche monsters in Abyss Rising. They're so pretty.

In terms of new strategies, I think we're still up against a wall due to some missing monsters from Abyss Rising. I was thinking about maybe adopting a Macro Cosmos/Eatos build, but you're not really getting that much mileage out of the Madolche cards. If you were running purely the Warrior Madolche monsters, then maybe a combination of Reinforcement of the Army and Warrior Returning Alive can give your hand nice and full, while also taking full advantage of cards, such as The A. Forces and Solidarity/Burden of the Mighty. In that situation, piercing damage can be helpful since they can run over most defense position monsters if pumped up.

The beauty of Madolches is that since they rarely stay in the graveyard, you can run things like Magiliene and still keep the graveyard a single type. That could be handy for that Warrior concept you have. One thing I want to point out is that Macro is a bad idea in Madolches, as it prevents the monsters from returning to the deck when they die. Eatos is mediocre as it is, so I wouldn't put too much emphasis into it.

Currently, I've been toying with the idea of using Madolche Magiliene and Butlerusk in a Spellcaster's Village deck, alongside some standard anti-meta Spellcasters like breaker, jowgan, and Kycoo, and use Solidarity. I haven't gotten to test anything yet, but on paper it seems like a sound idea. I'll let you guys know how it does once I get started with it.

PipBoy

09-29-2012, 09:33 AM

For Madolche Chateau where it shuffled all your madolche monsters, can you put them into your hand?

Gandruff

09-29-2012, 01:43 PM

Unfortunately not as the field card says "If a monster(s) in your Graveyard would be returned to the Deck by the effect (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect) of a "Madolche" monster, you can add (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Add_a_card) it to your hand (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand) instead."

PipBoy

09-30-2012, 08:21 AM

K if it did it WOULD be very b roken and would see builds around Messengelato

Jackal Knight

10-15-2012, 06:04 PM

If you were running purely the Warrior Madolche monsters, then maybe a combination of Reinforcement of the Army and Warrior Returning Alive can give your hand nice and full, while also taking full advantage of cards, such as The A. Forces and Solidarity/Burden of the Mighty. In that situation, piercing damage can be helpful since they can run over most defense position monsters if pumped up.

I definitely like that idea. I've been looking for a really good reason to use Madolche Chouxvalier (he's my favorite Madolche, just because of the way he looks).

Does anyone else think that Cruffsant (Croiwansant) is awesome? If any Madolches hit the grave, Cruffie can Return Chateau to the hand so you can active it again to empty your graveyard (and get a 300 ATK and 1 level boost while he's at it). Also, if he stays on the field long enough to use his effect twice, he can open up options to Rank 5 Xyz with Puddingcess. Not to mention his combo capabilities with Magileine. He's a good boy. :)

Endrance88

10-19-2012, 10:35 AM

Gaw! why are some of these cards still in japanese? i can't wait to construct this deck

my regular spellcaster deck was such a dissapointment and this whole book spell stuff looks dumb, i can't wait to see what the madolches can do for me

Gandruff

10-19-2012, 12:31 PM

Not so much of a fan of Madolche Chouxvalier as sure its 1700 but because of how its worded you can't put a lock down like you can do for Magician Valkyria or Marauding Captain.

Cruff is apsolutely awesome as if you have the field spell down you summon him, Return the field spell then replay it again and BAM he's at 2300 and will jump upto 2600 next turn by doing the same

PipBoy

10-19-2012, 04:16 PM

Cruff is really necessary because you can recycle cards like Magileine and proc Ticket I believe . Unless your using some off build that isn't discovered yet I think he's a staple at 1-2.

Endrance88

10-27-2012, 10:40 AM

i'm having a lot of trouble getting more than one madolche on the field, i don't think Double Summon, Ultimate Offering and madolche mew is enough

PipBoy

11-01-2012, 05:51 PM

i'm having a lot of trouble getting more than one madolche on the field, i don't think Double Summon, Ultimate Offering and madolche mew is enough
Your right I don't think they have that umph to really push them to that level. However once you get Madolche Fiesta then it becomes a whole lot easier , and you can recycle cards with cruff/mew/mess

exodiasezwhat

11-07-2012, 09:51 AM

Who has a Tiaramisu?

I DO!!

It's such an awesome card and I can't wait to get two more. It really makes even a deck without full Madolche Magileine viable. It even makes a straightforward Madolche beatdown convincingly fun to play with...it'd play just like a Hero Beat that uses Blade Armor Ninja.

As a tech card, I've been use Exodius the Ultimate Forbidden Lord as an extra Madolche Chateau. I haven't fully experimented with this, but I was also hoping to throw in a Galaxy Queen's Light to potentially go into Superdimensional Robot Galaxy Destroyer.

PikachuHunter

11-19-2012, 02:26 AM

Endrance88

11-24-2012, 06:25 PM

Cruff is really necessary because you can recycle cards like Magileine and proc Ticket I believe . Unless your using some off build that isn't discovered yet I think he's a staple at 1-2.

honestly, i find cruff REALLY useless, i seem to get all the cards i need regardless without him

i just have trouble getting them onto the field all the time, btw i'm running the deck with xyz monsters as its theme

PipBoy

12-06-2012, 05:29 PM

honestly, i find cruff REALLY useless, i seem to get all the cards i need regardless without him

i just have trouble getting them onto the field all the time, btw i'm running the deck with xyz monsters as its theme

I really like him I don't understand how you have trouble getting them out once you have marg you just search for him and its even better of u have messageloto or mew-feulle.

Endrance88

12-07-2012, 09:26 AM

I really like him I don't understand how you have trouble getting them out once you have marg you just search for him and its even better of u have messageloto or mew-feulle.
yeah, but with marg, i just end up getting the cat, because that's all i want, it's summoning power

PipBoy

12-11-2012, 06:59 PM

Hmm you are right however with each duel you might already get cat therefore do not need it again I just feel like his recycling ability is a tad bit underrated atm.

Nisage

01-18-2013, 09:05 AM

Cruff, believe it or not, has been helpful when combo'ed with Ticket. But I'm just waiting for Hootcake and the War Chariot for Madolches to really give them a bit more of a push.

I'm actually having problems in searching for Madolches instead of Summoning Madolches. 2 Double Summon and 2 Palooza helps a bit.

BigStinkin'Ape

01-18-2013, 09:36 AM

Funny how this isn't in the deck discussion, seeing how madolches can be really damn competitive.

Thoughts on teching silver sentinels in the main to give more chances for good rank 4 plays (outside of queen) and giv us a bit more bite vs "blind mst"?

exodiasezwhat

01-18-2013, 05:55 PM

It must have been moved here since it previously was. The whole forum is getting pretty disorganized.

There are new Madolche cards coming out, so it's not over yet!

BigStinkin'Ape

01-18-2013, 08:47 PM

Cannot wait for hootcake, I have ideas for that hoot-hoot.

PipBoy

01-19-2013, 07:19 AM

Cannot wait for hootcake, I have ideas for that hoot-hoot.

LOL THAT CARD IS JUST *claps* very good card and its a beast too so that works well for messegelato if you want him too :P

Just checked Madolche Night, its an alright card so much better if it destroyed the target too.

BigStinkin'Ape

01-19-2013, 10:44 AM

LOL THAT CARD IS JUST *claps* very good card and its a beast too so that works well for messegelato if you want him too :P

Just checked Madolche Night, its an alright card so much better if it destroyed the target too.What's nights eff?

ragda

01-19-2013, 11:35 PM

Counter Trap

When a monster effect is activated, if you have no monsters in your Graveyard: Negate the activation, then, if you control a face-up "Madolche Puddingcess", shuffle 1 random card in your opponent's hand into the Deck.

BigStinkin'Ape

01-20-2013, 11:33 AM

funkdat

01-27-2013, 10:23 AM

It's basically TGU for the theme that doesn't have a lvl 3 restriction. This card really makes Effect Veiler good because he just has to remove ANY monster from the GY. With cards like Effect Veiler and Maxx"C", you can make him live as soon as turn one.

The theme trap like Effect Veiler is ok, but you might as well just run Fiendish Chain as well and stop the monster from attacking. If is destroyed the monster too, then it would be good. The Puddingcess effect would be the only reason to run it, but I hope non of is are running Puddingcess deck evne when the Owl comes out. Some might argue that it's searchable, but tha's still not a good enough reason. I'd say run 1 or none.

BigStinkin'Ape

01-27-2013, 01:13 PM

funkdat

01-27-2013, 02:39 PM

Getting to rank 5 should be handled by other more reliable monsters, pudding really is not living up to the hype for me.

Shes basically a bad card. I really hope no one is running her or a deck built around her. My g/f does much better with cards like Double Summon and just make Queen.

BigStinkin'Ape

01-27-2013, 07:20 PM

Shes basically a bad card. I really hope no one is running her or a deck built around her. My g/f does much better with cards like Double Summon and just make Queen.Yeah queen beat is much more effective as is the use of Double Summon....even before we knew septembers list I was expecting Double Summon to pay off better.

PipBoy

03-03-2013, 11:52 AM

Anyone has come up with a Hootcake centric decK?

mahamiq

03-03-2013, 03:19 PM

I kinda did but havent touch it for about 2-3 weeks and with little amount of playtest

honestly only just start playing Madolche a month ago after reading this (http://decsilentenigmayt.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-not-so-quick-guide-to-madolche.html) guide

Oh and here's a video i had just uploaded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyuni0yFxm8

3 Magileine
3 Hootcake
3 Mille-Feuille
3 Messengelato
2 Croiwanssant
1 Puddingcess

3 Chateau
2 Ticket
2 MST
1 Terraforming
1 Monster Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Book of Moon
1 Heavy Storm

2 Madolchepalooza
2 Starlight Road
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Compulsory Evacuation Device
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Ultimate Offering
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Solemn Warning
1 Madolche Nights

Other consideration : Effect Veiler, Guardian Eatos, T.G. Striker, Giant Rat and Mirror Ladybug (or Immortal Bushi FTL)

I think the deck Special Summon too much to consider fitting in Duality especially with Hootcake around.

I haven't got the chance to test this further but since the deck XYZ Summon a lot, Hootcake might have enough fodder without the need to splash non-Madolche. All-Madolche lineup also makes Ticket and Chateau more consistent

datyugiplaya

03-19-2013, 06:49 PM

seriously...am i the only one who sees the fatal flaw with the tiaramisu/chateau combo? it really doesnt work how people plan it. Chateau prevents the monsters from actually hitting the deck so the effect of shuffling your opponents cards can never happen. If you have been playing like that then you are cheating and need to pick a new deck strategy.

Redrain

03-20-2013, 05:02 AM

PikachuHunter

03-20-2013, 05:24 AM

This actually helps me too. My friends are like "herpderp" you are cheating.

datyugiplaya

03-21-2013, 10:47 AM

...... Yu Gi Oh Wikia Ruling
When "Madolche Queen Tiaramisu" would Return the targets for its effect to the Deck, the effect of "Madolche Chateau" can be applied. In this case, the targets for the effect of "Madolche Queen Tiaramisu" are not returned to the Deck and are returned to the hand instead, but they still count towards the number of cards returned, and afterwards, the effect that returns cards the opponent controls to the owner's Deck according to the number of cards returned is applied
There's no way you can justify that effect, if the cards never touch the deck the effect of chateau cant apply because part of its constraints are not actually met. that's like saying i can send 2 Fabled Cerburrel to the grave to special Fabled Soulkius and have Cerburrel's effect work to special them...it just doesnt work like that.

Endrance88

03-22-2013, 01:22 PM

it may be not justified, but it is an official konami overlord ruling

JerkJerk

04-10-2013, 10:04 PM

Please play nicely, folks.

Endrance88

04-13-2013, 08:20 AM

i just don't see madolche's going anywhere after this

sure they are good, but i think they can use a lot more cards to help them out, even hootot and what's its name isn't going to help them all that much

and teching them with one monster from another archetype is just depressing, i don't like the thought of booting puddingcess from the deck and concentrating purely on getting the queen out, even if it is the better strategy

PikachuHunter

04-16-2013, 03:08 AM

Now, this deck is good I just put it aside now because my friend is playing heroes and that's a really tough match-up. When hoot cake comes out this deck will be great. The only tech cards you will need in this deck are tour guide and thunderking. I personally like Tragoedia since you can put all te monsters back to the hand. I don't know if you play this deck, but its not a weak deck. The only problem I have is that magileine is weak :(
i don't know if this post helps but I will edit my signature later so you can keep an eye on my madolche deck.

Endrance88

04-16-2013, 10:44 AM

so what's your beef with puddingcess?

JerkJerk

04-16-2013, 10:48 AM

so what's your beef with puddingcess?
Probably that it's a six-star monster that's not likely to push for game breaking status because the stats would indicate that it should be, given it's downsides.

ragda

04-17-2013, 12:39 AM

5-Star*

If not for its downsides, it would've been pretty OP. I'm sure they'll get a card that'll easily empty the graveyard AND happens more than once (unlike Chateau).

PikachuHunter

04-18-2013, 12:24 AM

so what's your beef with puddingcess?

Puddingcess is bad in a overal madolche deck. The only way she will be good is in a deck of her own. Since the only way you can summon her is by tribute summon (what you don't want to do because you will have a monster in your grave then) or by Madolche Mewfeuille. Its an real "dead" card.
There are still players who are running a copy of puddingcess but they are also running other madolche what i'm not a big fan of.

Sorry for my bad english if I have made some mistakes :)

5-Star*

If not for its downsides, it would've been pretty OP. I'm sure they'll get a card that'll easily empty the graveyard AND happens more than once (unlike Chateau).

The hootcake card will empty the graveyard kinda fast, but then again I would not run this card in a hootcake build.