Will Gladiator Beast move down to Tier 2?

[moonwillrise]

a new booster pack "Stardust Overdrive" will soon come out.
there will be 2 new lightsworn card which will be a big load of trouble to all deck.
Blackwing - Silverwind the ascendant will give blackwing more support.
in Stardust Overdrive pack, there isnt any card that support gladiator beast.
so I want to ask you guys, if Gladiator beast still have a chance against those 1st tier deck?

[Destinyz]

1. Nobody knows what the new Lightsworn support will do. So they might just be crap.

2. If you think Silverwind will help Blackwing decks a lot, I have no idea what to say.

So how on earth are we supposed to give our opinions with all these unknown variables?

[Yaykebab]

I doubt that GB's will move down a whole Tier with one booster, but GB's at this stage are hanging on by a thread. There is a chance of them moving down to Tier 1.5, but I highly doubt that they will become Tier 2.

[dark armed]

I doubt that GB's will move down a whole Tier with one booster, but GB's at this stage are hanging on by a thread. There is a chance of them moving down to Tier 1.5, but I highly doubt that they will become Tier 2.

this^

gb have been hurt pretty bad with solemns limitation. and sjc orlando proved this with only 1 GB deck topping. after stardust overdrive, GB, wont be able to compete with BW and LS.

[itchy112233]

I agree with Yaykebab, although they have lost 2 Solemn and a Cat, it wasnt that much of a big hit. Gladiator Beasts are still fully fuctional, this format is also much slower compared to the last so big plays are not going to be that common; more people will play conservatively other than Lightsworn (which are hit or miss with the milling). We have barely seen any builds yet. But im sure Glads can work their way around this format. Too be honest the new Blackwing synchro seems like a load of garbage to me, and god knows what the new Lightsworn support maybe-could be garbage too eh. Gladbeasts will stay tier 1, if not, then tier 1.5. Tier 2 is highly unlikely.

[darknessimprisoned]

gbs are supposed to get new stuff in the pack after Stardust overdrive, they get a synchro and a tuner, also my source is like 50 ppl at sjc Orlando

[Dxt XXII]

Lone Silver Wing is horrible, and unless the new LS stuff is a really good tuner, nothing changes. Remember, this is a much slower format, so GBs have time to set up plays.

[BlazingPaladin]

GBs are going to be one of the top decks this format IMO.

There's no way they'll fall to tier 2.

[moonwillrise]

is there any chance that the new pack will have some GB support card?

[hackersdoom]

gbs are supposed to get new stuff in the pack after Stardust overdrive, they get a synchro and a tuner, also my source is like 50 ppl at sjc Orlando

A GB tuner and Synchro .Wow. Any links.

[moonwillrise]

Base on the information i like up, the next pack is call Absolute Powerforce which have a dark synchro in it.

[ridleyslayer]

So like is that the supposed new synchro, it is higky doubtful I mean a tuner constanly revived by darius, searchable at any time, recicled by equeste, yeah sure, the will be cool but not gonna happen.

[BlazingPaladin]

So like is that the supposed new synchro, it is higky doubtful I mean a tuner constanly revived by darius, searchable at any time, recicled by equeste, yeah sure, the will be cool but not gonna happen.

^ That. So much That. ^

[dark armed]

dark synchro??? like dark stardust or something?

[Leeskiowns]

I was on Wikia the other day, and as I browsed the Stardust Overdrive list, I was baffled for when I saw a monster named Gladiator Beast Rauls. However, it was removed from the list rather quickly. A Gladiator Beast Synchro and Tuner would be amazing. However, Gladiator Beasts are indeed hanging by a thread.... Their worst match-up is now the most popular deck in the game: Lightsworn.

[moonwillrise]

As i see in the long run, X-saber might go up to tier 1 or 2
the new two pack coming out which is stardust overdrive and absolute powerforce will have lots of X-saber support in it.

and to answer dark armed (http://forum.tcgplayer.com/member.php?u=163156) question:
Yes there will be a Dark synchro In Absolute Powerforce but that wont be coming in 2010 January i believe. the dark synchro is call Moonlight Dragon Quilla, and there's another synchro which is not dark that look similar to that card is call Sun Dragon Inti.

Lee: I personally think that there will be more GB support, is just that Konami is saving it for later and the reason why i think that is because since they think that if they add in more lightsworn support, then people will buy more lightsworn and the price will go up sky high because lightsworn is practically the boss of all deck. after people spending hundreds and hundreds of dallors on lightsworn, then Konami will release more GB cards.
Its just my prediction, no need to get all WACK about it.

[Lightswarm]

I would go 1.5 for them Gbs. Not all that great anymore but not that suckish.
So I'm guessing that's a no? If all of those YuGiOh players want to be straight up demanding, I would say the bottom of Tier 1. I'm having problems game 1 agains Vayu Variants, it's so annoying.

[ridleyslayer]

As i see in the long run, X-saber might go up to tier 1 or 2
the new two pack coming out which is stardust overdrive and absolute powerforce will have lots of X-saber support in it.

and to answer dark armed (http://forum.tcgplayer.com/member.php?u=163156) question:
Yes there will be a Dark synchro In Absolute Powerforce but that wont be coming in 2010 January i believe. the dark synchro is call Moonlight Dragon Quilla, and there's another synchro which is not dark that look similar to that card is call Sun Dragon Inti.

Lee: I personally think that there will be more GB support, is just that Konami is saving it for later and the reason why i think that is because since they think that if they add in more lightsworn support, then people will buy more lightsworn and the price will go up sky high because lightsworn is practically the boss of all deck. after people spending hundreds and hundreds of dallors on lightsworn, then Konami will release more GB cards.
Its just my prediction, no need to get all WACK about it.

So far I think there is nothing for x-sabers at stardust overdrive

[lightswornsack]

GB is definitely not as good as it used to be first off it CANNOT beat ls because the deck cant deal with the +1s and gardnas and all that for example u cant charge mill a wulf and your opponent has to waste their chariot or bottomless then u just go off because all your good mills burn all their backrows while u just go all out from there

[nicnac]

Am I the only person who think GB's easiest matchup IS Lightsworn? I rarely ever lose to LS, or lost.. ya know? When I actually played YGO.

[DrkWizard]

Unrelated, but the "dark synchro" that has been released in Japan is a normal synchro (one-hundred eyes dragon) used by the first dark signer that Yusei runs across. Instead of using the Dark Tuner/Dark Synchro mechanic, they just used the normal synchro mechanic. I doubt they'll change that, even though I wish they would. Not only do the Dark Syncrho's dark grey border look cool but the mechanic is pretty neat as well.

Here is link to Card (because I don't know how to make the name above a link :( ) http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/One-Hundred_Eye_Dragon

Go to trivia and they will tell you that all the "Dark" synchros released so far have been remade into normal synchros.

[lightswornsack]

Am I the only person who think GB's easiest matchup IS Lightsworn? I rarely ever lose to LS, or lost.. ya know? When I actually played YGO.
i know its kind of an opinion but a lot of people think gb is lightsworns greatest match up but it always depends on the hands if they have the heavy mst charge and all that they will obv win just because gb doesnt have a good time against ls when they have everything like necros honest and wulfs

[TSX]

probably not, there's a bunch of cards that already are gladiator beast support

[RC_Cruz]

I still think that you people should hurry up and ditch Cat. Prisma Glads dominated for 6 months for a reason, and whats changed since then? DAD is gone, replaced by BW, which is an easy matchup, and LS has gotten Charge of the Light Brigade. Don't give me anything about Bestiari being at 1, you only need 1 to begin with. The reason more than 1 was used was as a safeguard.

[Golden Ladybug]

I still think that you people should hurry up and ditch Cat. Prisma Glads dominated for 6 months for a reason, and whats changed since then? DAD is gone, replaced by BW, which is an easy matchup, and LS has gotten Charge of the Light Brigade. Don't give me anything about Bestiari being at 1, you only need 1 to begin with. The reason more than 1 was used was as a safeguard.

this = sense

Glads have the potential to dominate this format, but KittyBeasts are on the way out. Prisma lets HUGE plays happen and we all know it.

BW and LS are both face smashers, and what does GB like? waboku! Face smasher just Got eaten by a giant Gladiatorial Bird

[patricko1989]

I don't think they'll go down to Tier 2. They suffered a lot from the last 2 Ban Lists but even after that, they're still putting up the good fight. What the deck needs is a new method now. Their control power is gone but they now have Fissure and Ancient Forest. Will there be more support for Glads? Not in the next pack, but maybe in the pack after that. Oh, speaking about the dark synchro everybody's talking about, it's one of the two dragon synchros that rex goodwin used in the final duel.

[moonwillrise]

Bump!!
Bump!!!
Bump!!!
Bump!!!

[Treykura]

Gladiator Beast will be Tier 1 for awhile..

[xcrx]

Short answer:

No. SOVR does nothing for or against them. HA is what affects it, and there is no direct relation there. (only LS / DHZ are affected)

They will continue to top regional after regional and therefore remain tier 1.

[Samurai4]

i don't think that GB's will go down in tier, mainly cause of how much teching can be done for game 2 and 3, They can side in Trap stun's for oppression and mirrors, D-fissure for LS, I think they took a hit but they will definatly dtill be a big threat.

[nicnac]

this = sense

Glads have the potential to dominate this format, but KittyBeasts are on the way out. Prisma lets HUGE plays happen and we all know it.

BW and LS are both face smashers, and what does GB like? waboku! Face smasher just Got eaten by a giant Gladiatorial Bird

I run GB, and find Prisma terribly inconsistent.
It blows up the field one turn, but late-game, Prisma's relatively bad.
Draw a GB
or draw Prisma?
I'd rather the GB.
Early game domination isn't worth late game failure.
But, I don't open Tiger every game. :|

[Dxt XXII]

Unless something new comes up, GBs are going to be like DAD was last format; not really good enough to win a huge tourny like a SJC, but still good enough to be considered tier 1.

And yes, Prisma GBs tend to be inconsistant. Remember that a simple bottomless or T-Roar completely ruins the strategy.

[JediChile]

Well, i think GB's wont be tier 2, for the reasons that all of you have mencioned and the fact that, if a tournament is full of LS and Vayu, then put the side deck in the main... Kycoo, waboku and fissure...
That's what I do around here and it goes well.

What I mean, when the first GB deck topped a Shonen, it was a DAD time, so, the GB deck mained several copies of Shadow Imprisoning Mirror, we can do a similar thing now.

[TheLastWarrior]

mmm.... I think that GBs are going to be tier 1 at least in this format cuz like everyone could saw in the last format and before that, one day GB is the top and the next no but they always move to top 16 or top 8 in many tournaments maybe they are in a bad time or they will be but GB is GB.

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[xcrx]

I didn't want to believe it at first. I was in denial as if GB's slipped a tier I'd be forced to play something different.

However the statistics point to a decline in Gladiator Beast and uprise in BW's and DHZ.

Also no tops at 2 SJC's really does show their true colors. The tier drop is official as far as the competitive scene goes. I don't really care how it is classified here as there is still a format and a half old "DAD" thread which hasn't changed to DHZ.

[Freepoints]

Yes BW are defeating GBs and with further support hinted in 'Shining Darkness' they will definately top GBs. However GBs are still ranking high in the tournaments, i doubt they will drop in tier.

[asdepicas]

last tops were lightsworns, BWs, twilight and chaos decks even some destiny zombies... but no glads... we need something new, old glad decks are not working in tournaments... vayu BWs is a cheap deck that is being insanely played... maindecking opression... that is a very difficult matchup...

[xcrx]

Yes BW are defeating GBs and with further support hinted in 'Shining Darkness' they will definately top GBs. However GBs are still ranking high in the tournaments, i doubt they will drop in tier.

Unknown future releases should never be used in questioning a tier.

And the point I've bolded, you can see a decline in GB's in regionals. I follow regional results so I know everything in that area.

The flopped 2 SJC's, and their % has started to drop from the original 25% they had at the beginning of the format.

[Freepoints]

well, we've heard of Black Feather Dragon (it sounds pretty fearsome...)
Hopefully GBs get some further support...

[Lightswarm]

I belive so, GBs have droped down to tier 2 but nothing less. It is not as competitive but it can still own tier 2 deck:p.
We'll have to wait and see what support we have in store later on.

[Sijun]

Wait, Gladial Beast are now tier 2? But they are still as strong as they are before. In fact, I face more gladial Beast players compared to blackwings and lightsworn. Or maybe that's just my local meta. But still one cannot look down on gladial beasts

[Freepoints]

it's Gladiator Beast...
And they're more like Tier 1.5
They can still easily beat Tier 2 decks and defeat DAD decks with ease but just have some slight troubles against LS and BW.

[Lightswarm]

^ Agreed above. They are very versitile, and IMO Zombies too have joined the Tier 1.5 only if you believe that decks can fall into this category.

[Freepoints]

Yeah, 2 Mezukis have improved Zombies a lot (but at least they lost CoSR ^^)
Yeah, GB's are still most versatile deck, but just lack sheer speed that the other top decks (BW and LS) have.

[Fidamania]

it's Gladiator Beast...
And they're more like Tier 1.5
They can still easily beat Tier 2 decks and defeat DAD decks with ease but just have some slight troubles against LS and BW.

I also agree with this.

I keep C.E.D's sided for everything. It slows down LS, and BW. I was on a roll against LS yesterday at my local shop. I beat it 4/5 times thanks to C.E.D, and Dustshoot. I'd highly recommend to any GB player to run both.

[hyethis]

i seriously dont see why everyone is saying silverwind is that horrible. high attack and if you vayu it its a +1 just like every other BW synchro, only this one is bigger. then if you just HAPPEN to synchro summon it and not special summon with vayu, then you CAN or CANNOT decide to use the effect to blow up your opponents monsters so alll around it can save you the duel when your in a tough spot and dont have icarus attack..
Although i do agree it wont change the BW that much, it will still provide alot of help in some situations. its worth running maybe 1 of in the extra deck IMO

[Freepoints]

gbs are supposed to get new stuff in the pack after Stardust overdrive, they get a synchro and a tuner, also my source is like 50 ppl at sjc Orlando


^^ that does sound pretty good, but of course it hasnt been confirmed xD
Personally I'd rather just have Konami make better original GBs instead of giving them a synchro (i just hate how they make synchros from an original non-synchro deck). I'd prefer another good contact-fuse.

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SWA does suck... He's not worth getting out and even when you do get him out he's only really good if ur opponent has 2 monsters. I have an OCG SWA and to tell you the truth, when I do have the option of getting SWA out my opp doesn't have a monster - I'd rather Stardust.

[Freepoints]

*bump*

and huh? what? Did someone say something about BWs beating them?
HOLY LIGHT their *** ^^

[PsyCom]

GB's are still an amazing deck, however, a lot of people who have ran them in the past have just net decked them. They are lacking in speed, but still, they out tactic LS and BW. A good D-Fissure build could pwn the competition. Until someone makes a consistent build, they will unfortunately stay that the Tier 1.5 lvl... GB's lost soo much with the limit of Solemn, its true. Whereas Rescue Cat was amazing, GB's can still run with out him.... Best card to replace him with is Summoner Monk. For instance, its an immediate Darius, Bestiari, Hoplomus... You choose, lol. That whole, "Not able to attack," though kind of bones 'em, unless of course you've already got another GB on the field cuz then its just an immediate Gyzarus. Summoner Monk and a good back field are all you need for a great Gyzarus/Heraklinos loop. Or, you can combo him with Test Tiger. Your choice.

-Every GB deck (unless it uses D-Fissure) should use a GB Retiari. He pwns Vayu, Sworn, Zombies. Just a good card in general and with 1200 att, he can still deal some nice damage. GB's should also see a rise in the use of Dark Bribe. Its not nearly as good as Solemn, but it gets the job done it tight situations.

SOVR is a fail set that helps only fail decks and even with the new Sworn cards, Sworn will never win a Jump. (I am completely ready to get flamed for calling BW and Sworn "Fail Decks," I'm just tired of seeing Tier 1 decks that revolve around whats in people's wallets. It just doesn't take too much skill anymore to top 32 at a regionals.)

Silverwind is fail-tastic and the only true way to get him out is to have a Vayu and BWAM in the grave at the same time (which does not happen often). His effect is... Well, there's just a good chance that they aren't going to have 2 monsters to destroy and he's probably going to get BTH'd or D-Prisoned. Sucks for people looking forward to him.

I can't wait for the GB support from Absolute Powerforce. Only... Its really hard to say that its coming out, since Absolute Powerforce isn't even out in OCG yet. Yeah, you've got sources, but how "resourceful" can they be when Absolute Powerforce hasn't been released? Sorry, but I can't accept your information. (If it is true though, then the release of a Tuner and Synchro GB will definitely boost them back up a bit.) If a GB Tuner comes out, then its effect will probably be, "When this card is special summoned by the effect of a GB, then treat this card as a tuner." I spose that would be cool... but at the same time, Kinda lame. Unless you are synching for Armor Master or Stardust, synching after the battle phase isn't a good idea.

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[OddCrow]

Gladiator Beasts ultimate downfall is that they rely on the most basic mechanic of the game(well apart from summoning and drawing), battling. They also have to have many cards to ensure battle takes place, and that they survive it - leaving less chance to put in anti-anti-GB cards, for fear it will detract from their overall plan.

Another problem they have, is that they are so easy to side against.
Mirror of Oaths
Juju
Oppression
among others

Gladiator Beasts will continue to be competitive for their "Ultimate Toolbox"-like playstyle, but will be held back from domination with their inevitable vulnerability to such common cards.

[PsyCom]

Thus, Dark Bribe is an amazing card that they can take advantage of in this meta. I don't often see people running Juju, unless they are running STUN. Or at least thats how it was at the Regionals I went to Oct. 11th.

[xtremelegend95]

maybe, because u dont know the new cards in the packs, and one time my friend lost to a struture deck angainst his GB deck...

[Freepoints]

huh? What? Don't you mean 'with his GB deck?'

and what do you mean by 'because u dont know the new cards in the packs'?
We do know the cards in the pack. Yugioh.wikia and manyomethunder, heard of them?

jeez, make yourself understandable...

[PsyCom]

Lol, I have to agree with Freepoints here... I read your post and was like... Duhhhhh....

Your friend obviously doesn't know how to duel using a GB deck if he lost to the new structure deck. Where as it IS good, I doubt that it would have taken two rounds against a GB deck, unless it had some major tweaking.

[Chaos Bc]

I think they can stay Tier 1 no reason not to...

[nicnac]

maybe, because u dont know the new cards in the packs, and one time my friend lost to a struture deck angainst his GB deck...

This is exactly the reason GB aren't really Tier 1 anymore.
Simply put, if less bad people ran Gladiator Beasts, they'd be more competitive.
This is how it goes.
10 or less good people.
40 or more bad people.
The good people get sacked, or do well at regionals, just to run something else at bigger tournies like SJC's.
The bad people suck, and fail at regionals and SJC's.
(Good + Bad) - (Good) = Bad.
Basic logic is basic.

[Jebus McAzn]

This is exactly the reason GB aren't really Tier 1 anymore.
Simply put, if less bad people ran Gladiator Beasts, they'd be more competitive.
This is how it goes.
10 or less good people.
40 or more bad people.
The good people get sacked, or do well at regionals, just to run something else at bigger tournies like SJC's.
The bad people suck, and fail at regionals and SJC's.
(Good + Bad) - (Good) = Bad.
Basic logic is basic.
^^ love it

The question here seems to be whether Stardust Overdrive (and by extension, Absolute Powerforce) will affect GBs. The problem is that it's not affecting GBs.

Two new Lightsworn cards are coming out; we really don't need more Lightsworn support but everyone knows that Konami doesn't give a crap about the TCG, and since the OCG Lightsworns have never really been Tier 1, since they only recently got Charge, LS still haven't been hit yet. Of course, that's almost definitely going to change with March '10 banlists.

Then there's Silverwind, which will appear in Vayu decks, but serve little purpose otherwise. Still, dedicated Blackwing turbo can very capably Armed Wing+Blizzard/some other level 2 Tuner Blackwing for Silverwind, gain field advantage (especially against GBs) and then Vayu+Armed Wing for Armor Master.

And then there's Shutendoji, which will certainly boost Zombie decks up greatly, what with the added strength of Mezuki and PSZ.

Black Feather Dragon is coming out in The Shining Darkness, which seems to be more Blackwing support.

And most importantly, in Hidden Arsenal, Brionac is coming out, which will almost certainly make Zombies tier 1.5, if not tier 1. Gladiator Beasts were always Control decks, and now that Solemn is at 1 and Cat is at 1, they've lost a lot of ability to keep others at their speed. I see GBs teching in Retiaris frequently in the future to try to compensate for their lack of speed, and even though this format is slower than the last, with all the support the other top-tier decks are getting soon (LS, BW, Zombies) GBs are going to fall behind.

I'm going to say tier 1.5.

[nicnac]

Or, we just get a bunch of good people to run GB instead of ZHero, BW and LS.
Then we'd have our train rollin'.

[Sijun]

I think they can stay Tier 1 no reason not to...

i thought they were tier 1.5 ?

and I've seen lots of stupid people running GB's which later gave me the impression that GB was kinda a useless deck until i played against some shop owners with GB's and got thrashed...

[PsyCom]

i thought they were tier 1.5 ?

and I've seen lots of stupid people running GB's which later gave me the impression that GB was kinda a useless deck until i played against some shop owners with GB's and got thrashed...


Lol, isn't it fun?

[Samuraialz]

Hmmm, I would say Tier 1.5. Glads are good, but I don't think that they can keep up =/.

[Freepoints]

Lol, I have to agree with Freepoints here... I read your post and was like... Duhhhhh....

Your friend obviously doesn't know how to duel using a GB deck if he lost to the new structure deck. Where as it IS good, I doubt that it would have taken two rounds against a GB deck, unless it had some major tweaking.

Agreed. Wtf GB deck loses to a structure deck?

Anyways, maybe if we're nice and GBs are dying too much... BESTIARI AT TWO!!! xDxD

[sword of souls]

I dont think they will move down to tier 2 maybe 1.5
they will still be good

[Freepoints]

Yeah, of course not Tier 2 (we've kinda established that...in this thread already... read previous pages.) GBs are really good but simply cant compete with the speed and swarming ability of top tier decks as GBs arent focused on swarming but more focused on control, they simply get overrun by the top decks. However lower tier decks cant compete with GBs (we control too much ^^)

[sword of souls]

i hadnt read the earlier posts
We will have to hope for the next pack to have GB support

[Freepoints]

SOVR does not have GB support, but there is news that future packs (ABPF or Shining Darkness) will.

[treehug3435]

Well, the LS support cards didnt do much support.. but GB still will not be able to compete with lightsworn. In the case of BW, they get dark Sirmogh (idk if i spelled it right), he seems like he will change things a bit, specially since he disables setting (so no GB war chariot). I truly dont think GB will catch up again, even with new support (which if they get will probably suck). Either way... All u GB players... if u arent convinced... simply wait and see the results of next Shonen Jump..Either BW or LS will take it... glads wont even make it to the top 10 (if they do, they will be the first out)

[Leeskiowns]

The problem is popularity. Lets be honest, Gladiator Beasts can beat Blackwings and Z-Heroes on a consistent basis granted a skilled player plays the deck. However, most Blackwing builds this format have that Game 1 edge with Royal Oppression. Lightsworn has the highest percentage to "sack" your opponent FTW, which justifies it's amazing popularity. Anyone can go Lyla into Judgment Dragon. It is just too easy. THIS is the reason why you see 9 out of the Top-16 decks at a SJC being Lightsworn. This also leads to the slow downfall of Glad Beasts. Glad Beasts can't win or "top" because the most popular deck in the format is also the deck that is the most prepared for Gladiator Beasts Game 1: Lightsworn. In all honesty, the new Lightsworn cards won't make much of an impact. Why do Blackwings top you ask? They have Oppression for Game 1. Easy Armor Master for the Lightsworn match-up. Gladiator Beasts NEED War Chariot turn 1 or 2 to even get ahead against Lightsworn.

[Freepoints]

leeksi, do you think Holy Light will help the GBs against LS? It would probably win us game 1.

[nicnac]

The problem is popularity. Lets be honest, Gladiator Beasts can beat Blackwings and Z-Heroes on a consistent basis granted a skilled player plays the deck. However, most Blackwing builds this format have that Game 1 edge with Royal Oppression. Lightsworn has the highest percentage to "sack" your opponent FTW, which justifies it's amazing popularity. Anyone can go Lyla into Judgment Dragon. It is just too easy. THIS is the reason why you see 9 out of the Top-16 decks at a SJC being Lightsworn. This also leads to the slow downfall of Glad Beasts. Glad Beasts can't win or "top" because the most popular deck in the format is also the deck that is the most prepared for Gladiator Beasts Game 1: Lightsworn. In all honesty, the new Lightsworn cards won't make much of an impact. Why do Blackwings top you ask? They have Oppression for Game 1. Easy Armor Master for the Lightsworn match-up. Gladiator Beasts NEED War Chariot turn 1 or 2 to even get ahead against Lightsworn.

You guys seriously lose to LS with GB?
You have 3 Chariot
3 Waboku
and 3 Book.
How are you losing? Really?

BW is the hardest match up by far.
I find LS the best match up.
It's not a matter of popularity. It's a matter of skilled people using the deck.
Let's be frank about it.
When's the last time you've seen an event with more than 3-4 good players running GB? :\

[RareCard]

leeksi, do you think Holy Light will help the GBs against LS? It would probably win us game 1.
How can a card that prevent dark monster from do anything can help us againist a LIGHT deck?

[zelink]

Why is this topic still up honestly?
It has just turned into the GB discussion thread and we don't need 2 of them. :\

[Falzar FZ]

How can a card that prevent dark monster from do anything can help us againist a LIGHT deck?

I think he meant against Blackwings.

[JerkJerk]

Just take this to the Gladiator Beast Discussion Thread. Closed.