Analyzing the Rosewater

[Kris]

This thread is for the discussion of Mark Rosewater's: Planechasing Your Dream - Zendikar spoilers.


A card that is a two-card kill combo with a rare card in Magic 2010.
A spell capable of making a 14/1 token.
A creature that can sacrifice itself to make a planeswalker go to the graveyard.
A legendary octopus
A spell that can allow you for no mana to put a creature from your library into play.
A card with the reminder text "The land continues to burn..."
A card that allows you to pay eight mana for four 4/4 fliers
A creature whose rules text includes the phrase "you win the game."
A cycle of cards that players have been begging us to print for years.
In addition, here are a few card names from the set:


Electropotence
Grappling Hook
Journey to Nowhere
Lotus Cobra
Sphinx of Lost Truths
Vampire's Bite

[DraconisMarch]

I love it when people make threads about the same thing.

http://forum.tcgplayer.com/showthread.php?t=195543

Already talking about this stuff.

And if you're going to do this, at least add your own comments about it. You're just making these posts and not contributing them to up your post count.

[GoblinToken]

Vampire bite either sucks blood (drain life) or takes control of a creature if it obeys any sort of Vampire Mythology. It sounds like an instant or sorcery (a one-time bite) but it'd be cool if it was enchantment granting you, the player, a permanent set of fangs.

Vampire's Bite :b::b:
Enchantment
Damage sources you control have lifelink.

(I think that would also constitute a 2 card combo with Sanguine Bond once you do 1 damage.)

The legendary Octopus has gotta have Deathtouch to signify his ability to drag any creature that dares face it into the watery depths.

Journey to Nowhere = Path to Exile (pretty much word for word). But then again that's what he wants us to think...

Grappling Hook :1:
Equipment
Equipped creature cannot be blocked by walls.
Equip :0:
I dare you to waste a slot in your deck on this P.O.S.

[Master Moja]

I am looking forward to that Octopus. Hopefully he looks something like this:

Superawesomeomegapus
:3::u::u:
legendary creature-octopus
Shroud, Trample, Deathtouch
4/4

for blue, thats pretty good IMO.

And for lotus cobra, I imagine this:

Lotus Cobra
:g::g:
Deathtouch
Landfall- whenever a land comes into play under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on Lotus Cobra.
Sacrafice Lotus cobra: Add X mana of any color to your mana pool, where X is the number of +1/+1 counters on Lotus Cobra.
1/1

And for those 4/4 flyers I imagine this:

Night of the Vampire
:4::b::b::b::b:
Sorcery
Put 4 4/4 black vampire tokens into play with flying.

[agracru]

A card with the reminder text "The land continues to burn...

Wildfire? Probably not. But it'd be cool.

[kwonzo]

A creature that can sacrifice itself to make a planeswalker go to the graveyard. Definitely something that allows it to destroy target noncreature permanent, similarily to Woodfall Primus. They wouldn't make it so specific as to destroy a planeswalker specifically.

A legendary octopusI'm stumped.. maybe blue gets merfolk and octopi now?

A spell that can allow you for no mana to put a creature from your library into play.A zero-costed card with several different kicker abilities, one of which is to put a creature into play?

A card with the reminder text "The land continues to burn...Probably a portion of a new keyword.

A card that allows you to pay eight mana for four 4/4 flier.This is most likely a spell, with an aditional kicker allowing you to put four 4/4s into play. Maybe:

Dragon's Fury
:X::r::r::r::r:

Put X 4/4 Flying Dragon creatures into play.


A creature whose rules text includes the phrase "you win the game.Yet another pointless win-more card, most likely. I don't even remember the last card they said would have "you win the game" on it, but obviously, it wasn't played, so I predict the same fate for this one.

A cycle of cards that players have been begging us to print for years. Dark Ritual, Ancestral Recall, Rancor, something great in red, and something great in white. I'm drawing a blank at the moment... :rolleyes:

Or maybe the 5 moxen? :D


@ Draconis: Is it wrong for someone to lack inspiration about certain cards, and would rather see some feedback first before putting up their own opinions?

[Anubis_God]

Grapling Hook reminds me of Zelda...it should be an equip with Reach or Provoke.

[Tylerhasheart]

Grapling Hook reminds me of Zelda...it should be an equip with Reach or Provoke.

or to climb walls! jk.

[kwonzo]

"Equipped creature cannot be blocked by walls" is back!!!! :D

[justactcasual]

I love it when people make threads about the same thing.

http://forum.tcgplayer.com/showthread.php?t=195543

Already talking about this stuff.

And if you're going to do this, at least add your own comments about it. You're just making these posts and not contributing them to up your post count.

Although that thread was only talking about one of the clues...

The legendary Octopus is obviously an 8/8 with a CMC of 8 for 'resonance'.

The 14/1 token is probably a Lightning Serpent variant.

-allows- you to pay 8 mana for 4 4/4 flyers? Maybe a new uber-familiar (in the line of Stormscape Familiar x3) plus 4 regularly priced 4/4 flyers in hand.

The most interesting is "the land continues to burn" as reminder text. So either burn is some new terminology, or there is a card called "The land continues to burn..." that references itself. "Burn" is going to be high on the Orbing list if we get an Orb this time.

[Warmaker]

If you ask me, Rosewater's just trying to up the hype for Zendikar, what with the incre-he-hedibly drawn out spoiler and all.

A card that is a two-card kill combo with a rare card in Magic 2010.

Probably has a catch.

A spell capable of making a 14/1 token.

Has a catch/drawback.

A creature that can sacrifice itself to make a planeswalker go to the graveyard.

Has a drawback.

A legendary octopus

This had better be freakin awesome, because it sounds freakin awesome. And it better be playable.

A spell that can allow you for no mana to put a creature from your library into play.

Has a major drawback.

A card with the reminder text "The land continues to burn..."

No idea...it sounds cool. Be interesting to see what they do with it.

A card that allows you to pay eight mana for four 4/4 fliers

Has a drawback.

A creature whose rules text includes the phrase "you win the game."

Has a catch.

A cycle of cards that players have been begging us to print for years.

These had better be enemy fetchlands. Can anyone else think of something so completely desired?

In addition, here are a few card names from the set:


Electropotence
Grappling Hook
Journey to Nowhere
Lotus Cobra
Sphinx of Lost Truths
Vampire's Bite
Sound cool, better look cool, and better be really cool.

[vger]

This is what i would have intepreted.

"A card that is a two-card kill combo with a rare card in Magic 2010. "

Not much hype over this one. The candidates for the rare card in M10 would probably be:

1) Sanguine Bond ( some lifegaining nonsense is printed)
2) Hive Mind ( Perhaps a certain pact is going to be reprinted or at least something that says "lose the game next upkeep" is going to be printed.)
3) Some random jank rare. (which combos with another jank combo piece.)

Wizards tends to get cautious with combos and i doubt they are going to be easy this time. I've glanced through some of the rares in M10 but didn't really find most of them combo-viable. Perhaps we shouldn't be looking forward to a new combo deck anytime soon.

"A spell capable of making a 14/1 token."

Either it's going to be highly costed, or the token is sort of a ball lighting variant. Certain drawbacks may be possible, i'm not too sure. However, i'm not too keen on this one since a 14/1 doesn't look threatening to me with all the removal going on these days.

"A creature that can sacrifice itself to make a planeswalker go to the graveyard."

Probably it has an ability that says " Sacrifice this creature: Destroy target noncreature, nonland permanent." Perhaps this is going to be a rare if it were some cheap utility creature and have this ability. (See Qasali Pridemage.) I doubt Wizards is going to print something so direct as "Destroy target planeswalker" because it certainly doesn't fit flavour wise- since not many knows the existence of planeswalkers, so how do you destroy them then?

"A legendary octopus"

It's definitely going to be blue and of a hefty cost with over-the- top abilities. What do we have next, a legendary blue whale?

"A spell that can allow you for no mana to put a creature from your library into play. "

Haha. The catch is that the spell isn't free. This reminds me of a mini tooth and nail with entwine for one creature.

"A card with the reminder text -The land continues to burn"

It's probably some land destruction card, or probably an enchantment that says each player sacrifices a land during his upkeep. Or possibly something that deals damage to a player for every land the has. Perhaps deal damage to a player whenever a land comes into play. Highly possible it's going to be in red.

"A card that allows you to pay eight mana for four 4/4 fliers."

Probably an enchantment which has an an ability that costs 8 to put four 4/4 fliers into the battlefield. Nothing too spectacular when you see the number 8. Heck, even Sarkan Vol wasn't played these days, why would this be?

"A creature whose rules text includes the phrase -you win the game."

Another timmy card that would not be constructed worthy.

"A cycle of cards that players have been begging us to print for years."

Sigh. This is the only one that gets me excited over Zendikar, of course aside from the Full-Art lands and planeswalkers hehe. I'm not sure if they meant to reprint or print new cards for this one. Nevertheless, they are perhaps going to be very good cards imo.

[RyuumiGaroukuni]

... Hmmmmm. I want it to be next week already!

Big Octopus... Stuff I want to see... Definitely next week previews upon previews

[siopao]

putting a planeswalker into the yard doesnt necessarily mean it has to be in play to begin with. my guess is that its an alternate form of destroy (put it directly into graveyard? kinda like exile?) or its something that lets you search for a card in the library and yard it. this could be hinting at graveyard manipulation. if its the alternate destroy thing thou, that could mean its neccesary to get around regeneration (which requires something to be destroyed), which was hinted by the new wrath not "killing" regenerators.

4 4/4 flying creatures for 8? could be a kicker card. like the one that puts x soldiers or x angels (forgot the name) if the kicker cost was pa-, i mean if it was kicked.

cycle of cards? hmmm... probably has something to do with kicker *** well (pun intended) considering its the returning mechanic and people generally like it. maybe the volver cycle? or the maybe the battlemages? especialy since the kicker costs of these cycles are different colors which ties into the multi color theme of alara block

electropotence has me excited. since most people think its a red necropotence probably something with draw + discard at random (instead of pay 1 life)? but then that has nothing to do with "electro"...

[heathro1281]

And for those 4/4 flyers I imagine this:

Night of the Vampire
:4::b::b::b::b:
Sorcery
Put 4 4/4 black vampire tokens into play with flying.

Fan F***ing tastic

[OdiousMesmerism]

You know, I thought of the "The game winning combo card that goes well with a M10 card," as a way for people to dip back into M10. It does smell fishy, but I'm sure they'd come up with something to counterbalance broken combos.