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Savia
05-09-2005, 06:01 AM
Epic (For the rest of the game, you can't play spells. At the beginning of each of your upkeeps, copy this spell except for its epic ability.)


This is a minor keyword ability, seen on only a cycle of five rares (think Offering). But it's a flavourful and fun way of making Legendary spells, in my opinion! I look forward to seeing the other four Epic spells. Hopefully they'll be exciting :)

As a rules thing, it looks like Epic sets up an infinite series of delayed triggers, along with a static ability. This isn't something we've seen before! I think perhaps the Saviours rules update might go into a little more detail on how all of this works exactly.

Incidentally, in case you're wondering why it says 'except Epic', here's how it would work otherwise:

Turn 1: Play Enduring Ideal. One Epic ability sets up.
Turn 2: In Upkeep, Epic puts one copy of Ideal on the stack. Another Epic ability is set up.
Turn 3: Both previous abilities trigger and 2 copies are played, and two more Epic instances are created.
Turn 4: All four previous epics trigger and are played. Four more resolve. Four more add.
Turn 5: All eight previous...

ie, that the number of spells on each turn is 2^(n-2) for n>1. This scenario would get out of hand pretty fast!

Mind Over Matter
05-09-2005, 08:43 AM
I agree, this ability looks good, but here's hoping for something slightly better/more powerful than this, as I can only see a few dodgy combo decks using it...

Transcendence + Form of Dragon is probably its best use.

On a more personal note, where abouts in cambridgeshire do you come from, and do you come to the gnometrader tournaments? (I am also from cambridgeshire)

Storm Crow
05-09-2005, 10:11 AM
I agree, this ability looks good, but here's hoping for something slightly better/more powerful than this, as I can only see a few dodgy combo decks using it...

Transcendence + Form of Dragon is probably its best use.

On a more personal note, where abouts in cambridgeshire do you come from, and do you come to the gnometrader tournaments? (I am also from cambridgeshire)

Epic Ideal would actually make Genju of the Realm playable. It was run in Extended, via Academy Rector, and I think it would be fun to tutor out a 8/12 trampler that's nearly impossible to kill. Granted, you suffer the problem of not being able to replay it, since you can't fetch it out of your deck if it's in your hand, but still.

Savia
05-09-2005, 10:17 AM
MoM: I'm a student at Cambridge uni, and go to the weekly draft at the Grafton.

I've been to Gnometrader once, for County Champs a couple years back.

GenericKen
05-09-2005, 02:58 PM
"Epic (For the rest of the game, you can't play spells. At the beginning of each of your upkeeps, copy this spell except for its epic ability.)"

Sorry man, but it's right there in the rules text.

Savia
05-10-2005, 02:06 AM
I suggest you read my post : |

I was demonstrating why that line of text was present.

Akroma Angel of Wrath
05-10-2005, 05:21 AM
It would be good to have recurring spells, but you cannot play anything for the est of the game. Granted, there are ways around this, but not many and most aren't all that good. The white one I've seen could see some play, especially if more enchantments are printed. We'll have to see what the others do.

dark_knight_307
05-10-2005, 05:52 PM
One word:

Hondens