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malcolmbw
01-12-2009, 04:20 PM
What's Going To Be The Deck To Play After Lorwyn Block Rotates? I predict some kind of artifact deck. Bets???

dead2me82
01-12-2009, 04:37 PM
I'm not sure, but I'm hoping it won't be land destruction.

hellkite91
01-12-2009, 04:56 PM
something with red, we've got so much fast red stuff, that or maybe white/green based aggro like naya or white weenie, one thing is sure, aggro will still be strong

DraconisMarch
01-12-2009, 05:16 PM
I'd like to see some land destruction. I've always wanted a decent land-waster.

dragon1299
01-12-2009, 07:31 PM
Man, Conflux hasn't even come out yet, most decks are like 75% Lorywn Block. Still, I'm pulling for a Jund based aggro deck.

Minion_of_Gleemax
01-13-2009, 09:47 AM
It looks like Ramp will get some help with banefire and the like, and I think artfact decks will become better simply from a larger pool of artifacts to draw from. Maybe Tezzeret will jump in price a bit?

I also think Faeries will get a tool or too, simply because Wizards isn't going to leave the most popular deck in format high and dry.

heathro1281
01-13-2009, 06:18 PM
I bet Unearth becomes strong... there is probably going to be some stupid wicked unearth *** kicker waiting in the third set... I do say exhalted LOSES steam unless they do more ability additions like Rafiq adds an ability instead of just +1/+1 imagine a blue give flying and a green give trample with Rafiq... So your creature gets flying, trample, and double strike plus a few +1/+1s from Squire/ Paladin... A Paladin would easily be a 4/4 trample flyer with doulble strike protected by Stoic Angel....

TRIP0D
01-13-2009, 09:01 PM
if they reprint Last Rights
(2B Discard X amount of cards, target player discards that many cards) unearth will be busted. I think however, that RW ajani, ranger of eos will be really strong. The ranger will be busted with the soverigns anyway.

Galvatron
01-13-2009, 09:12 PM
gixis an esper control look to be the big dogs followd by bantright now naya agro with relamrazor an figure is strongbut it looses som teeth when figure goes an unearh uis hella good

Demonbunny
01-13-2009, 09:28 PM
Wow, talk about eager for a rotation:) Its not happening until November 2008.
Anyway... I don't think Unearth nor Artifact themes will be tier 1 as outside of Shards block, I even doubt their power in block, the cards for those themes just don't come accross as tier 1 constructed material.
As for me, I reckon we'll actually see more conventional stuff like RDW or R/x aggro with UW, UB and UBW(Non esper theme) control. And yep, there will definitely be some kind of Mana Ramp with UWG tempo, ala Critical Mass Update a possibility with Noble Hierarch.

Galvatron
01-13-2009, 09:34 PM
Wow, talk about eager for a rotation:) Its not happening until November 2008.
Anyway... I don't think Unearth nor Artifact themes will be tier 1 as outside of Shards block, I even doubt their power in block, the cards for those themes just don't come accross as tier 1 constructed material.
As for me, I reckon we'll actually see more conventional stuff like RDW or R/x aggro with UW, UB and UBW(Non esper theme) control. And yep, there will definitely be some kind of Mana Ramp with UWG tempo, ala Critical Mass Update a possibility with Noble Hierarch.

first off don't you mean NOV 2k9?

shards block was all draft heavy all of it was weak sauce design by devin low whao was laid off at this point am actually glad maro design the liv long prosper block some broken ness after this so far disapointing block

Demonbunny
01-14-2009, 06:47 AM
Yeah, 2009... my bad, teach me for posting a thread quick before going to work... So still got 2008 on the brain with dates.

I don't see how Shards can be called weak though. The only card really standing in its way is Bitterblossom. Although not an overpowered card in itself, it has managed to push Faeries over the top with regards to its matchup against control decks and other midrange decks.

Galvatron
01-14-2009, 07:42 AM
it's weak not just caus of ther fact the wholsets plays slow but also the blog designer madit draft heavy thears very few cards that caonstructed player can actually use an you can't blame oall on one deck to get a grip on under standing futureset power levels post totation you have to think like lorwyns alrreday totated an an ask youreself whats good whats consistant an what the best metagame choice?

Dyne
01-14-2009, 07:52 AM
Naya. Depending what stays in 11th, they could still have access to Mogg Fanatic, Incinerate, Birds.

Also, Ranger of Eos mixed with Ajani Vengeat, and some quick beats with Nacatls and Thoctars, could easily be a top strategey post rotation.

Galvatron
01-14-2009, 04:44 PM
Naya. Depending what stays in 11th, they could still have access to Mogg Fanatic, Incinerate, Birds.

Also, Ranger of Eos mixed with Ajani Vengeat, and some quick beats with Nacatls and Thoctars, could easily be a top strategey post rotation.

your an agor player arn't ya it's obvious

fencingmoose
01-14-2009, 06:46 PM
Is bloom razer being seriously considered as a new t1 deck type? the Idea of a figure bloomtender and turn 3 Realm Razer seems terrifying and dosent seem too difficult to pull off. Also, Ive heard talk of using the Bloomtender to ramp into emhpymrial archangel and running control and warmonks to finish. D you think either of those bloomtender orinented ideas are viable?

Galvatron
01-14-2009, 09:47 PM
no for on its cost one more than than BOP dose an is just as fragile second it's in ana older block so it won't be a threat down the road

SGTslappy
01-14-2009, 10:11 PM
Grixis would be the deck to play. Sure there are no Ethersworn Cannonist or all those artifact good stuff, but Grixis can range from Control to Aggro, or both. If you face artifacts, Just keep a Remove Soul or an Unsummon in your hand for early counter spells until u have enough mana to begin your slaughter with cards like Malgefor.

PlatypusPlatoon
01-15-2009, 11:36 AM
Really hard to say, cause we've only seen half of Conflux, and none of Reborn. The power level of Lorwyn / Shadowmoor block is so much higher relative to Shards that it's hard to picture the meta without Cryptic Command, Reflecting Pool, Bitterblossom, Figure of Destiny, Reveillark, Chameleon Colossus, etc., etc., etc....

I agree with Dyne - Ajani Vengeant and Ranger of Eos are great cards, so some kind of R/W concotion could work, though losing Reveillark hurts. Jund Ramp would lose Garruk (that is, unless he gets printed in 11th) and not much else, so that seems like a contender. Bant Control doesn't lose too much, either.

I hope they power up Esper and Grixis. Those seemed to me to be the two weakest shards. I would love to see a competitive unearth deck, or some fun artifact combos!

pastorofmuppets
01-15-2009, 07:50 PM
have you seen the spoilers?
WoTC loves bant too much. And they seem to hate grixis
naya will be cool once progenitus is a card, barring him acually being a dominaria tie-in or something. (we still don't know where Geth ended up, for those of us who remember the day when a primarily black deck was actually respectable)

pastorofmuppets
01-15-2009, 07:54 PM
grixis will, however, have that big scary vampire on T7, and if you T6 obelisk and survive to T8, you don't waste your time on bolas and start burning with obelisk and unearthing like hell.
one thing grixis has going for it is corrosive mentor, which is leaving anyway...

Galvatron
01-15-2009, 09:54 PM
blas is basicaly the grixis equivalant of legacy weapon he rfs stuuf that naormall yblack an red couldn't get rid of enchanments artifacts planes wlaker other then well it dosn't need to be said would be funny if prince sees play grixis coaul have a strong reanimator theme fore it Common mrro repint recurring nightmare an living death and exume in in live

SGTslappy
01-18-2009, 01:44 PM
have you seen the spoilers?
WoTC loves bant too much. And they seem to hate grixis
naya will be cool once progenitus is a card, barring him acually being a dominaria tie-in or something. (we still don't know where Geth ended up, for those of us who remember the day when a primarily black deck was actually respectable)

WoTC does like the "NERD" themed more than the "BRUTAL" theme. What do u expect from "WIZARDS" man, they're geeks and nerds. Grixis does, however, get stronger with CONFLUX. More mana fixers, stronger 2 drops with GRIXIS' colors, MALGEFOR will be brutal, that new 2R removal card, countersquall, and more.