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Sidney_Rotten
09-24-2007, 09:22 AM
I didn't see a post on this one yet, and I wanted to run it up the flagpole.

Crib Swap
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Tribal instant- shapeshifter

Remove target creature from the game. It's controller puts a 1/1 colorless shapeshifter creature token with changeling into play.

White removal, cheap, remove from game....tutorable with numerous cards. Seems pretty sweet.

Rakavolver
09-24-2007, 09:39 AM
Yeah, I didn't see this either. Well the unofficial spoiler was just finished today, Sid, and we're all trying to wrap our heads around it. Definitely like the "crib" word. Sorta takes the pain away from "faerie" and "kithkin."

It's decent. 2W isn't exactly "cheap," but it's not expensive. Hurts a Tarmo in play, hurts all the big crits if your Gaddock Teegs didn't get them first. GW could use it, as well as BW Control. Both are shaping up to be awesome IMO.

Xujhan
09-24-2007, 11:05 AM
More importantly, it kills Gaddock Teeg very, very dead. This card definitely makes me happy, though it competes with Oblivion Ring for non-Condemn removal at 2W. Oblivion Ring can hit anything, but is a sorcery and is easier to counteract, where Crib Swap only hits creatures and leaves them a 1/1. If you run this, run Desert with it. It's then essentially "pay 1 life" instead of the 1/1.

Shargon14@yaho
09-24-2007, 11:11 AM
I would note that this in your hand turns on all the Tribal Dual lands, as well as all the "Reveal" cost creatures.

RoninX
09-24-2007, 11:13 AM
Its looking more and more like "shapeshifter" is going to be the most important block "tribe"

Rakavolver
09-24-2007, 11:20 AM
Compare to Condemn.

Sidney_Rotten
09-24-2007, 11:29 AM
Yeah, that lands thing is huge. I don't know if there are enough 'must have' shapeshifter cards to make it work though. In any case, it means more use for Vedalken Aethermage, which I love using. Gotta love tutors you can use in any deck...

As for condemn, it's ok, but specified 'attacking' creature really sux. I don't play tournaments, but in my circle, and online, I have no problem playing around condemn.

MINI0N
09-24-2007, 11:34 AM
wit condem goin out this is good white removal

D3@D
09-24-2007, 11:50 AM
Condemn is here to stay for a while longer, see Xedition

Xujhan
09-24-2007, 12:03 PM
Sidney: How can you play around Condemn? Essentially every deck in the format that runs creatures needs to attack with them; doing otherwise is just giving the control deck time that you can't afford to give it. In any case, hitting only attacking creatures is such a minor drawback to pay for having a mana cost of only W.

Raka: No, compare it to Oblivion Ring, since they're competing for the same slot. In control decks that run Condemn, having such a low mana cost is better than either of these. It'll still be run, and probably one of either Crib Swap or Oblivion Ring will complement it.

Sidney_Rotten
09-24-2007, 12:16 PM
Xu- Like I said, I don't play a lot of tournaments, just with friends and online. And the way you play around condemn is lots of tutor. Transfigure, Citannuel flute, and teachings. As well as the more hardcore 'actual' tutors. I know it costs time, but if your deck is built right, its not a problem.

Anyway, I play rogue. If no one expects the cards you use, it is easier to win. For me, anyhow.

p.s. Congratulations on being a boy!:D

Shargon14@yaho
09-25-2007, 01:14 PM
I just realized that this was designed very well to encourage the use of the new Champion cards. Even if you kill your opponent's sole Kitchkin in response to Thoughtweft Trio, they are garunteed to have a creature of relevant type in play.

Props to wizards.

St@rWizard
09-25-2007, 01:26 PM
This is not comparable to Condemn. A UW player needs an answer to Gaddock Teeg, and a GW player would be VERY happy to hold Gaddock back if that means not losing the guy to Condemn. With Teeg shutting off the good card drawing spells and, more importantly, Wrath of God, there's no need to rush and attack with Teeg. This means that Crib Swap and Oblivion Ring are the answers to Teeg, and I think both have their merits. Crib is instant-speed which rocks, and can't be Disenchanted, while O-Ring hits a lot more for the same cost (like Walkers).

Sidney_Rotten
09-25-2007, 01:58 PM
My thoughts exactly Star. 'Cept are people really going to be attacking with Teeg at all? Seems reckless to me, with flash creatures, condemn, judge unworthy (yeah, the big guns:rolleyes:) etc.

Seems to me a lot of these power creatures are going to be held back while the tokens which benefit from their powers will be flung at your opponents.
One more strike against condemn.

K, didn't finish reading your post, and pretty much paraphrased you. Strike two for me.

St@rWizard
09-25-2007, 02:02 PM
Guys I have been testing a new Boros Deck Wins, and Crib Swap is the glue that holds the deck together. Between Goldmeadow Stalwart, Flamekin Bladewhirl and Ancient Amphiteatre, having a Crib Swap in hand means playing with Plateau, Isamaru and Jackal Pup consistently while still playing a decent removal spell. Seriously folks, Shapeshifter-Changeling spells are a house.

discodude
09-25-2007, 05:10 PM
ya, well prepare to see lots of shifters...goodbye clone, welcome all you others cloned clones...