If the banned/restricted list never exsisted

[Dragonsquest]

What do you think the meta would be like if the banned/restricted list never existed? I wonder what kind of decks would you see if every card was allowed at 3.

[Roxas]

SuperFastChaosdeckswithallotofdeckthinning!!

Lol, seriously though, yea...
Imagine that...

*Moved!*

[Hellhound]

Exodia.

Yeah.

[Dragonsquest]

well excuse me for my ignorance but the only yugioh i know much of was from lon and before. I just got back into yu-gi-oh when they brought out POTD. So the chaos era i no nothing about except chaos sorcerer only because I bought the structure deck with it. Can you elaborate on that era what is was about.

[channel_v93]

There wouldn't be a game people would just flip a coin to see who wins since everyone would run FTK Scientist

[Roxas]

well excuse me for my ignorance but the only yugioh i know much of was from lon and before. I just got back into yu-gi-oh when they brought out POTD. So the chaos era i no nothing about except chaos sorcerer only because I bought the structure deck with it. Can you elaborate on that era what is was about.Back, back in the day, Chaos Emperor ruled the land(lol).

This was way back when Yata was legal, as well as Witch and Emperor. The "move" was:

SS Chaos Emperor while Witch/Sangan was on the field.
Blow everything up while inflicting damage to opponent via CED.
SS Yata-Garasu to do the "Yata-Lock" and win.

Simple. And if everything was at 3, I can guarantee Fast Chaos decks that would bring Yata out in lest than 2 turns..

[Dragonsquest]

Oh ok so when did they start to introduce the banned/ restricted list after what booster pack was it?

[SixSamurai_Irou]

Yeah i agree but enve above that is the FTK's with exchange of the spirit and Magical scientist/Catapult turtle.

[DarkLord32]

i think we might see more originality. or at least different decks. tsuku lock, yata lock, exodia, chaos, monarch, gadgets all kinds of things. i think the ban list hurts the meta but that's my opinion.

[masterwoo0]

Oh ok so when did they start to introduce the banned/ restricted list after what booster pack was it?
The actual Restriction of cards already existed in the game shortly after it ported over from Japan, which is why you could not use 3 Monster Reborns, 3 Change of Hearts, 3 Raigeki's, etc...

As far as when we started "Banning" cards, that happened after the release of Ancient Sanctuary, and was implemented October 2004.

i think we might see more originality. or at least different decks. tsuku lock, yata lock, exodia, chaos, monarch, gadgets all kinds of things. i think the ban list hurts the meta but that's my opinion.To make a statement like that, you must not have played much during the Chaos Era.

The only Decks that would exist would be OTK or Chaos, and if a Deck didnt have Chaos splashed, it would be a rarity. The Ban List is why we have the amount of diversity we DO have.....

[MukaMuka-lvl7]

hmm...
5 Exodia Pieces
3 Goldd
3 Broww
3 Morphing Jar
3 Cyber Jar

3 Card Destruction
2 Serial Spell
3 Last Will
3 Pot of Greed
3 Pot of Avarice
3 Graceful Charity
3 Book of Taiyou
3 Book of Moon

Hmm... Lots of death in one turn.

[masterwoo0]

hmm...
5 Exodia Pieces
3 Goldd
3 Broww
3 Morphing Jar
3 Cyber Jar

3 Card Destruction
2 Serial Spell
3 Last Will
3 Pot of Greed
3 Pot of Avarice
3 Graceful Charity
3 Book of Taiyou
3 Book of Moon

Hmm... Lots of death in one turn.
And if they get just one of their 3 Imperial Order's on the field, you're pretty much screwed.

[MukaMuka-lvl7]

heck, we could throw in some heralds of purple and green light. Make it chaos food :-)

[uberdylan]

You might want to consider that you're running 3 Morphing Jars and 3 Card of Destructions and have no way to get the Exodia pieces back from the graveyard.

I would think Exodia FTK would be something like this:

Monsters: 15
5 Exodia pieces
3 Sangan
3 Witch
3 Emmissary
1 Toon Cannon Soldier

Spells: 25
3 Toon Table of Contents
3 Premature Burial
3 Pot of Greed
3 Graceful Charity
1 Painful Choice
3 Card of Safe Return
3 Shallow Grave
3 Last Will
3 Monster Reborn

You go first, you win. You go second, if your opponent doesn't get a FTK or use Imperial Order, you win.

[masterwoo0]

You might want to consider that you're running 3 Morphing Jars and 3 Card of Destructions and have no way to get the Exodia pieces back from the graveyard.Pot of Avarice???:confused:

[Marzbar]

Back, back in the day, Chaos Emperor ruled the land(lol).

This was way back when Yata was legal, as well as Witch and Emperor. The "move" was:

SS Chaos Emperor while Witch/Sangan was on the field.
Blow everything up while inflicting damage to opponent via CED.
SS Yata-Garasu to do the "Yata-Lock" and win.

Simple. And if everything was at 3, I can guarantee Fast Chaos decks that would bring Yata out in lest than 2 turns..

You mean normal summon Yata I think....

Yes, that combo is simply too powerful. But Yata without any of those other cards available I don't think would be a problem.

[yu-gi-oh_noob]

What do you think the meta would be like if the banned/restricted list never existed? I wonder what kind of decks would you see if every card was allowed at 3.

I hate posts like this if I was a Mod I would lock tham as soon as posted, as I will explain below.



The actual Restriction of cards already existed in the game shortly after it ported over from Japan, which is why you could not use 3 Monster Reborns, 3 Change of Hearts, 3 Raigeki's, etc...



Since we had a restricted list since the very begining I concider the restricted list part of the rules, you are basically saying "what if the game did not have rules" Well if the game had no rules everyone would run the same deck

5 Exodia pieces
35 Pot of greed

Whoever went first wins, what a fun game that would be.

[Marzbar]

Since we had a restricted list since the very begining I concider the restricted list part of the rules, you are basically saying "what if the game did not have rules" Well if the game had no rules everyone would run the same deck

5 Exodia pieces
35 Pot of greed

Whoever went first wins, what a fun game that would be.

LMAO!
Comedy Gold.

But I think that is a bit of an extreme view on this matter.... noone said you should be able to run more than 3 copies of a card. Especially not 35 Pot of Greeds....

[Dobaniki]

maybe somthing along the lines of....

Monsters = 8
x5 exodia pieces
x3 royal magical library

spells = 32
x3 graceful charity
x3 pot of greed
x3 dark factory of mass production
x3 painful choice
x3 delinquent duo
x3 the forceful sentry
x3 swords of revealing light
x3 confiscation
x3 harpies feather duster
x3 toon table of contents
x2 heavy storm

I present to you exodia library turbo otk. Going first would be a death sentence for your opponent because of the massive drawing power/discarding ability this deck has to offer. They will lose to exodia and be without a hand in one turn easily, unless your struck with incredibly terrible hands. Even if you go second you can deal with imperial order with HFD or heavy storm.

[yu-gi-oh_noob]

LMAO!
Comedy Gold.

But I think that is a bit of an extreme view on this matter.... noone said you should be able to run more than 3 copies of a card. Especially not 35 Pot of Greeds....

I understand what you are saying, but what I was trying to get across is. If you are going to ignore one of the first rules why bother yourself with the 3 card per deck limit.

[DarkLord32]

woo0: i have been playing the game since it's release. i didnt do alot of tourney play during the Chaos Era though. but still. i think if they at least went back to when the WotBF was allowed at 2 and sangan too and monster reborn was allowed. those days and just add cards to the limited list. people would still find ways to run CED-EOTE but it would be less effective. i just wish it would be like a traditional format. but from the beginning with heavy storm at 2 and graceful at 2 as well. that would be great and i would be the happiest duelist ever!

[xxxxx035]

gravekeepers would ruin chaos.......

[stilldoinmythang]

hell run 3 of EACH exodia piece, 3 pot of greed, etc......

[masterwoo0]

woo0: i have been playing the game since it's release. i didnt do alot of tourney play during the Chaos Era though. but still. i think if they at least went back to when the WotBF was allowed at 2 and sangan too and monster reborn was allowed. those days and just add cards to the limited list. people would still find ways to run CED-EOTE but it would be less effective. i just wish it would be like a traditional format. but from the beginning with heavy storm at 2 and graceful at 2 as well. that would be great and i would be the happiest duelist ever!
We already have many games where players are just waiting to see who draws the best card first, rather than who created the best strategy. Why would you want to throw the only thing we have left that semi controls the game, away, just to have a bunch of cards we already know WHY they are limited, unrestricted???

That's not fun. That's just "tossing cards". The only thing that would possibly make that even REMOTELY fun, is the fact that its just so ridiculous, and that you can basically do anything you want, that it doesnt matter who wns.

[yu-gi-oh_noob]

That's not fun. That's just "tossing cards". The only thing that would possibly make that even REMOTELY fun, is the fact that its just so ridiculous, and that you can basically do anything you want, that it doesnt matter who wns.

LOL, I put my Traditional Chaos deck back together and played someone who did the same. And what I quoted above is true; as long as you don't care who wins (or how) it is rediculous fun, we were just playing broken card after another (I think in total we had 10 non-banned cards each)

My point is even in Traditional we still have a restricted list, you can not or never could run 3 pot's and 3 Graceful's. And why would you want to?

[Tornado-Storm]

IMO the Restriction/Banned list is quite good because that way decks will change instead of staying of one kind meaning more variety and more stratergy needed.Also I hated the new resriction/banned list but then realised I only hated it cause I got Ring of destruction to use it, but now cant lol But now monarch decks are going to have to re-think some of it's content.

[the_gambler9]

What do you think the meta would be like if the banned/restricted list never existed? I wonder what kind of decks would you see if every card was allowed at 3.

I would quit Yu-Gi-Oh and start Digimon.Really.It would be so boring.Chaos or OTK?

[RobertHaruno]

IMO the Restriction/Banned list is quite good because that way decks will change instead of staying of one kind meaning more variety and more stratergy needed.Also I hated the new resriction/banned list but then realised I only hated it cause I got Ring of destruction to use it, but now cant lol But now monarch decks are going to have to re-think some of it's content.

Ring comes and goe's,nothing new.Monarch Decks will be fine.Just more the mother grizzly - treeborn style.

[cybertron]

Empty jar ftk would reign, 3 card destruction FTW

[RobertHaruno]

Empty jar ftk would reign, 3 card destruction FTW

Naa,just side 3 Neko Mane King.

Stein or Scientist otk would be tough though.

[Aggro-King]

One helluva Chaos deck.