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Bassoldier
07-07-2007, 03:46 PM
Does anyone know of a site that lists all the pokemon ubers, or know of them. I know Mewtwo, Latios/as, Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Ho-oh, Lugia, Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina are ubers, what are the rest?

Bullados
07-07-2007, 04:11 PM
Ubers = pretty much any Legendary, plus stuff that's broken.

RBY-era: Birds, Mew (?), Mewtwo
GSC-era: Dogs, Ho-oh, Lugia, Celebi, Wobbers with Leftovers
RSE-era: Regis, Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Jirachi, Lati@s, Deoxys
DP-era: Psychics, Regis, Dialga, Palkia, Heatran, Giratina, Cresselia, Phione (?), Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus

Or anything that has more total base stats than Starters (525), without a significant drawback (such as Slaking). Wobbers with Leftovers is the single most broken Pokemon ever conceived, and is banned in every single tournament imaginable.

Bassoldier
07-07-2007, 05:45 PM
Would dragonite, salamance, tyranitar, and Garchomp be considered ubers?

Bullados
07-07-2007, 06:48 PM
Don't think so...

Honestly, I'm not up on competitive VG Pokemon. I'm pretty much TCG and VG speedrun only.

FlameLucario12
07-08-2007, 03:13 AM
I think the best web site to find about pokemons is serebii.

Dogod
07-08-2007, 03:16 PM
Why are wobbeffeuts with leftovers banned?

Bullados
07-08-2007, 04:10 PM
Wobbers with Leftovers. With a good nature, it's impossible to knock that thing out. It has amongst the highest HPs in the game, and very good defenses. On top of that, its two attacks, Counter and Mirror Coat, both rely on the base damage of the attack that hits it, not the total amount of damage dealt to Wobbers.

PsychoWard13
07-10-2007, 11:37 AM
As defined by the metagame on a website whose initials are Neoseeker:
Ubers - Pokemon that are too powerful in a competitive setting, and are thus banned under most conditions.

Arceus
Darkrai
Deoxys (All forms)
Dialga
Giratina
Groudon
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Latias
Latios
Lugia
Mew
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Wobbuffet

Overused - Pokemon best suited to the competitive level.

Aerodactyl
Alakazam
Azelf
Blissey
Bronzong
Celebi
Cresselia
Dragonite
Dugtrio
Dusknoir
Electivire
Gallade
Garchomp
Gengar
Gliscor
Gyarados
Heatran
Heracross
Infernape
Jirachi
Jolteon
Lucario
Manaphy
Metagross
Porygon-Z
Raikou
Regice
Rhyperior
Salamence
Shaymin
Skarmory
Slaking
Snorlax
Starmie
Suicune
Swampert
Tauros
Togekiss
Tyranitar
Uxie
Weavile
Yanmega
Zapdos

Borderline - Too powerful for the underused class.

Ambipom
Arcanine
Armaldo
Articuno
Blaziken
Breloom
Charizard
Claydol
Cradily
Crobat
Dodrio
Donphan
Drapion
Empoleon
Entei
Espeon
Exeggutor
Feraligatr
Floatzel
Flygon
Forretress
Gardevoir
Hippowdon
Honchkrow
Houndoom
Jumpluff
Jynx
Kingdra
Lapras
Leafeon
Lickilicky
Lopunny
Ludicolo
Machamp
Magmortar
Magnezone
Mamoswine
Marowak
Medicham
Mesprit
Milotic
Miltank
Mismagius
Moltres
Muk
Ninetales
Ninjask
Omastar
Porygon2
Probopass
Rampardos
Regigigas
Regirock
Registeel
Roserade
Sceptile
Scizor
Slowbro
Smeargle
Spiritomb
Staraptor
Steelix
Swellow
Tangrowth
Tentacruel
Torterra
Toxicroak
Typhlosion
Umbreon
Vaporeon
Weezing

Underused - Pokemon that will not perform well at all in competition.

Abomasnow
Absol
Aggron
Altaria
Ampharos
Arbok
Ariados
Azumarill
Banette
Bastiodon
Bellossom
Blastoise
Cacturne
Camerupt
Carnivine
Clefable
Cloyster
Corsola
Crawdaunt
Dewgong
Drifblim
Dunsparce
Electrode
Exploud
Fearow
Flareon
Froslass
Gastrodon
Girafarig
Glaceon
Glalie
Golduck
Golem
Gorebyss
Granbull
Grumpig
Hariyama
Hitmonchan
Hitmonlee
Hitmontop
Huntail
Hypno
Kabutops
Kangaskhan
Kecleon
Kingler
Lanturn
Linoone
Lunatone
Luxray
Magcargo
Manectric
Mantine
Masquerain
Meganium
Mightyena
Mr. Mime
Nidoking
Nidoqueen
Noctowl
Octillery
Phione
Pikachu
Pinsir
Poliwrath
Politoed
Primeape
Purugly
Quagsire
Qwilfish
Raichu
Rapidash
Raticate
Relicanth
Sableye
Sandslash
Scyther
Seaking
Seviper
Sharpedo
Shiftry
Shuckle
Skuntank
Slowking
Solrock
Stantler
Sudowoodo
Swalot
Torkoal
Tropius
Ursaring
Venomoth
Venusaur
Vespiquen
Victreebel
Vileplume
Wailord
Walrein
Whiscash
Xatu
Zangoose

Never Used - Pokemon that have no competitive chance.

Beautifly
Beedrill
Bibarel
Butterfree
Castform
Chatot
Cherrim
Chimecho
Delcatty
Delibird
Ditto
Dustox
Farfetch'd
Furret
Illumise
Kricketune
Ledian
Lumineon
Luvdisc
Mawile
Minun
Mothim
Pachirisu
Parasect
Persian
Pidgeot
Plusle
Rotom
Shedinja
Spinda
Sunflora
Unown
Volbeat
Wigglytuff
Wormadam



Lol... Phione in Borderline.

Jet 803
07-11-2007, 07:46 PM
All legendaries except for the following are ubers:

Zapdos
Articuno
Moltres
Raikou
Suicune
Entei
Regice
Registeel
Regirock
Azelf
Uxie
Mesprit
Jirachi
Celebi
Manaphy
Phione

Wobbuffet and Wynaut are also ubers.

Bullados
07-11-2007, 09:09 PM
Mew is considered Uber?

PsychoWard13
07-11-2007, 10:15 PM
Just for the versatility of the movesets, I guess...
Now that you mention it, I'm scratching my head at that one too.

Jet 803
07-12-2007, 08:35 AM
Mew is considered Uber?

Yes. 100 base in all stats, Baton Pass with Rock Polish, Swords Dance and Nasty Plot, recovery in Roost, an obviously great movepool with the likes of Grass Knot, Aura Sphere, Stealth Rock, Thunder Wave, Explosion, Overheat, Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, and Ice Beam. Pretty broken, really. =\

Jet 803
07-12-2007, 08:56 AM
Oh yeah, Cresselia, Heatran and Regigigas aren't ubers either.

PsychoWard13
07-12-2007, 11:38 AM
Wha... OH.
Thanks for pointing that one out, Jet.

I think Cresselia SHOULD be... She might have some destiny as an excellent wall. Or is her moveset not up to par?

Bassoldier
07-12-2007, 11:42 AM
I don't think she has good enough attack/special attack

Spidey_o
07-12-2007, 11:54 AM
Yeap! Mew is uber...

PsychoWard13
07-12-2007, 11:54 AM
Well, she shouldn't have to if she's a WALL. :)

Bassoldier
07-12-2007, 12:01 PM
Her moveset is pretty bad, and up against a houndoom she would have a very very hard time

PsychoWard13
07-12-2007, 12:24 PM
Good point. Heck, against ANY darkie with decent atk/satk she would have a hard time. (honchkrow lawl ^.^)

So now we bring our attention to Regigigas: How useful is he?

I think there's definite possibilities with all that attack (not quite Rampardos or Deoxys, but hey) and I've thought of some interesting combos with that Slow Start ability... but what do you guys think?

Bassoldier
07-12-2007, 01:12 PM
Idk, regigigas is defianatley a hard one to use, unless he had a move that puts the enemy to sleep, might be able to work...

PsychoWard13
07-12-2007, 01:18 PM
Well ya, here's what I'm thinking.
You can either use trick room to get him up first
or moves like Avalanche and things like that. Most people, if they have a first-turner, attack first and most of the time you'll get the 2x damage.

But that much attack is just a waste. I see where you're going with sleep, but he doesn't learn one. Thunder Wave might work, though, with the Speed drop coming with paralysis...

Bassoldier
07-12-2007, 01:33 PM
That'd kinda work, but it's a little too risky

Jet 803
07-12-2007, 05:32 PM
Trick Room makes him faster but he still suffers the attack loss. Also, every time he switches out Slow Start resets itself, meaning he is not anywhere near an uber.